Legionärskrankheit in Patong -- Hotel Grand Tropicana

[gregor200]

wie Thaivisa schreibt, wurde das Hotel Grand Tropicana in Patong geschlossen, nachdem einige Finnen die Legionärskrankheit mit nach Hause brachten...

BREAKING NEWS:
Nordic tourists acquire Legionnaires´ disease in Thailand
Legionella may hinder trips to Phuket

PHUKET: -- Some of the winter holidaymakers who have booked their trips to Phuket through the Finnish travel operator Aurinkomatkat may have to cancel their vacation entirely or at least change their destination, as all hotels in Phuket are filled to capacity.

All Finns resident in the Grand Tropicana Hotel in Patong are being transferred to other accommodation, and the popular beach resort hotel will not be used until it has been satisfactorily demonstrated whether or not dangerous Legionella bacteria are hiding in its water and air-conditioning systems.

It has been confirmed so far that four Nordic tourists aged 24 to 66 have contracted Legionnaires´ disease after staying in the hotel.

In addition, a Finnish traveller who was resident at the hotel about a year ago evidently fell ill with the disease.

Furthermore, another Finn with a high temperature who recently returned from Phuket was being examined on Wednesday, but it could not be established whether or not he had Legionnaires´ disease, and he was released from the hospital.

The water samples from the hotel have not been processed yet.

So far Aurinkomatkat has found new accommodation for about 140 travellers of the 300 Finns who were staying at the Grand Tropicana Hotel at the beginning of the week. Efforts are being made to find another hotel also for the remaining residents, says Tuomo Meretniemi from Aurinkomakat.

New holidaymakers are flying from Finland to Phuket almost every day. All of them are contacted personally prior to their departure in order to negotiate the hotel situation, Meretniemi reports.

Furthermore, Aurinkomatkat has sent letters to around 1,500 clients who have been resident in the hotel since November 20th, advising all persons who have fallen ill with fever of more than 38°C either during the trip or within 14 days after leaving the hotel to go to the doctor immediately. However, if the symptoms have already disappeared, there is no need to seek medical care.

The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) monitors diseases contracted by the citizens of the European Union´s member-states while travelling. The connection between the Legionella patients - the hotel in Phuket - was detected through the ECDC network. The centre also cooperates with the World Health Organisation WHO.

On Thursday, epidemiologist Tran Minh Nhu Nguyen from the National Public Health Institute participated in a phone conference organized by the ECDC. It was stated that even though the water samples taken at the hotel proved negative, there is no knowing whether or not the disease was contracted at that hotel. Hence the situation will take weeks, the epidemiologist predicts.

However, there is no need to cancel any trips to Thailand because of the outbreak of Legionnaires´ disease, the Norwegian authorities have assured citizens.

--Helsingin Sanomat, FI 2007-01-13

Nordic tourists acquire Legionnaires´ disease in Thailand

PHUKET: -- The transfers of hundreds of Finnish tourists have begun from a hotel in Phuket to other accommodation, following an outbreak of Legionnaires´ disease in the popular beach resort hotel.

Two Finns, one Norwegian, and two Swedish tourists have fallen ill with pneumonia caused by Legionella bacteria, after having stayed at the Phuket Grand Tropicana Hotel in Patong Beach, Phuket. All had been resident at the hotel in the period since November 20th.

Legionnaires´ disease does not necessarily cause any symptoms at all, while for patients in poor health the disease can be life-threatening.

The National Public Health Institute has recommended the Finnish travel operator Aurinkomatkat should transfer all its clients from the hotel as soon as possible. The hotel must not be used until the water and air-conditioning systems have been cleaned and appropriate certifications on the completion of the measures have been received.

The National Public Health Institute is urging all persons who have been resident in the hotel since November 20th and have fallen ill with fever of more than 38°C either during the trip or within 14 days after leaving the hotel to go to the doctor as soon as possible. However, if the symptoms have already disappeared, there is no need to seek medical care.

Pneumonia caused by Legionella bacterium can be fatal for the elderly with heart and lung conditions, says epidemiologist Tran Minh Nhu Nguyen from the National Public Health Institute.

The Grand Tropicana has a constant quota of 125 rooms for Finnish travellers, and currently, more than 300 tourists are being acccommodated at the hotel, reports Tom Selänniemi of Aurinkomatkat. Other accommodation has already been found for part of the guests, even though it is not an easy task with the Chinese New Year being celebrated soon.

According to Selänniemi, the travel agency has contacted all its customers who might have been at risk of having contracted the disease. Those who are leaving for Phuket soon have been offered alternative destinations, while the customer is also entitled to cancel the entire trip cost-free.

--Helsingin Sanomat, FI 2007-01-12

 

[resci]

deshalb gilt, beim Bezug eines Hotelzimmers oder Bungalows erstmal das warme Wasser 5-10 Minuten ablaufen lassen, Fenster auf und den Wasserdampf möglichst nicht tief einatmen!

Legionellen setzen sich gerne in den unteren Lungenspitzen fest.

Man weiss ja nie wie lange das Wasser in den Rohren schon steht und gerade bei den tropischen Temperaturen können sich Legionellen sehr schnell vermehren.

Legionellen sind eigentlich überal im Wasser vorhanden, nur eben in geringer Konzentration.

Gefahr besteht nicht beim Trinken, sondern beim Einatmen von zerstäuptem Wasser, nicht bei kochend heißem Wasserdampf, da ab ca. 60 Grad die Bakterien beginnen abzusterben.

resci

 

[big_cloud]

wie erfrischend und gesund is da ne Dusche mit kaltem Wasser aus der Schoepfkelle.

der
Lothar

 

[big_cloud]

demnaechst gibbet ***** plus Legionellen

 

[resci]

wie erfrischend und gesund is da ne Dusche mit kaltem Wasser aus der Schoepfkelle.

ja das altbewährte System scheint halt immer noch das Beste zu sein, wie (fast) überall.

resci

 

[Auntarman2]

wie erfrischend und gesund is da ne Dusche mit kaltem Wasser aus der Schoepfkelle.

der
Lothar

Yepp. Ich bin auch schon in Luxushotels abgestiegen (beruflich meistens), aber so eine Schöpfkellendusche im Isaan mit kaltem Wasser und daraufhin Essen fassen mit der Familie war durchaus mit jeglichem Luxus vergleichbar, wenn man den Spaßfaktor betrachtet...

 

[woma]

Legionärskrankheit :schuettel: ich kenne mehrere Fälle, damit ist nicht zu spassen :schuettel: das Problem ist meist die Diagnose - bei meinen Kusin hatten sie auf der Intensivstation, kurz vor "Game Over" die Legionärskrankheit diagnostiziert

woma

 

[big_cloud]

@Gunther
jetzt haste mich geplaettet
mir fehlen die Worte



aber nicht lange.Versprochen!

der
Lothar aus Lembeck

 

[Auntarman2]

Heißwasser an, laufen lassen. Dabei natürlich raus aus dem Badezimmer. Sollte helfen...

 

[Auntarman2]

@Lothar: Ich bin zu Studentenzeiten monatelang in Skandinavien herum gefahren und wenn Du meinen Traum von Zufriedenheit wissen möchtest: Am Lagerfeuer abends am See, Penntüte daneben, Angel am Mann und Fisch am Feuer, Kaffeekochen am Lagerfeuer mit Wasser aus dem See und morgens anstatt Dusche etwas geschwommen. Mann, wenn ich nicht Verantwortung für meinen Laden hätte und genug Kohle auf der Bank, dann...

 

[big_cloud]

Gunther Du bist halt auch Mensch
mit tote Fiche hab ich dat nich so,bei mir waers eher nen Steak am Feuer,naja toten Fich bevor ich Kohldampf schieben tue!

koennt mir glatt nen gemeinsamen Adventure Trip vorstellen


der
Loddar

 

[Auntarman2]

Lothar, wenn kein Fich (Kein Fleich auf dem Tich, nur Fich): "Fleischlappen" am Lagerfeuer und dazu 'ne Büxe Bier, die Sonne geht unter um 03.00h pm., die Kinder spielen noch am Lagerfeuer, die "Herren" machen noch ein Bierchen auf, die "Damen" gehen schon mal in die Penntüte, wir kommen gleich nach... Was kann es schöneres auf der Welt geben? Mein Paradies Skandinavien.

Ähnliches habe ich auch im Isaan genossen.

 

[big_cloud]

und dazu ne Marlboro
oh! ich rauch ja nicht mehr
der
Loddar

 

[Met Prik]

und dazu ne Marlboro
oh! ich rauch ja nicht mehr

Immer noch rauchfrei? Super