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Ein paar Anmerkungen zu dem Aufsatz aus der NATION vom 18. April, den ich unten eingestellt habe:
Koh German in rice fields Deutsche Insel in den Reisfeldern
Ich bin immer wieder zutiefst entsetzt und bis ins Mark erschrocken über die vielen Thaifrauen, die sich bei uns in Deutschland prostituieren. Hinter jeder Thailänderin, die in einem deutschen Bordell „arbeitet“, steht letztlich ein deutscher Mann, der das auf der „Rechtsschiene“ erst ermöglicht oder ermöglicht hat.
Die Herzlosigkeit und Kaltschnäuzigkeit - vielleicht auch die Gedankenlosigkeit und Sorglosigkeit -, mit der deutsche Männer es zulassen, dass die ihnen anvertrauten Thaifrauen sich prostituieren, ist erschreckend und macht mich unendlich traurig und wütend zugleich.
Ich habe das erst wieder am vergangenen Wochenende in Hamburg auf St. Pauli beobachten können. Da gibt es ein Bordell auf der Großen Freiheit, in dem nur Thai Mädchen „arbeiten“. Ich konnte beobachten, wie mehrere bildhübsche junge Frauen sich durch den Eingang an ihren „Arbeitsplatz“ schlichen.
Zu allem Hohn steht auf der Eingangstür in großen Buchstaben:
„Thai, Girls, Girls, Girls“
Und in großer Leuchtreklame darüber: „Thai Paradies“.
Ich sage nicht, dass jede Thaifrau, die nach Deutschland kommt, sich prostituiere, aber offensichtlich gibt es einen relativ hohen Prozentsatz solcher Frauen, die – aus welchen Gründen, Umständen und Motiven auch immer – dann doch in der Prostitution landen.
Es gibt einen Soziologen, ein gewisser Professor Dr. Kleiber, der eine Reihe von umfangreichen empirischen Studien zur Prostitution in Deutschland vorgelegt hat. Darin stellt er fest, dass neben Frauen aus der Karibik und Südamerika sowie aus den ehemaligen Ostblockländern eben auch Thailänderinnen in auffällig hoher Zahl in der Prostitution zu finden sind.
So heißt es unten in dem Bericht aus der Nation (ich übersetze):
Es gibt viele Fälle von Frauen aus diesem Dorf, die Familien und lang andauernde Verhältnisse mit deutschen Männern gegründet haben; aber es gibt auch einige Frauen aus diesem Dorf, die nach Deutschland gegangen sind, um dort im Sex-Geschäft zu arbeiten.
„Niemand wird erzählen, dass sie sich prostituieren werden. Aber niemand weiß, was sie dort wirklich machen werden, “ sagt ein skeptischer Dorfbewohner.
While there are many cases in the village of women starting families and long relationships with German men, there are also some cases of women from the village going to Germany to work in the sex trade.
"Nobody is going to tell you they go to sell sex. But nobody knows what they are doing there," one sceptical villager says.
In diesem Zitat ist das Problem leider nur aus der Sicht der Frauen dargestellt, die nach Deutschland mit dem festen oder auch nur latenten Willen kommen, um sich hier zu prostituieren. Der Aspekt des einladenden deutschen Mannes bleibt hier leider völlig ausgeblendet. Ob er will oder nicht: Er trägt eine gehörige Portion Mitschuld an diesem Desaster, wenn es denn eintritt.
Überhaupt hinterlässt dieser Artikel einen merkwürdig ambivalenten Beigeschmack bei mir. Was ist das eigentliche Motiv der Frauen aus diesem Dorf, sich mit einem deutschen Mann einzulassen? Die Liebe? Oder ist es doch eher die Möglichkeit, an gutes Geld zu kommen?
So sagt eine der Frauen: “Wir gingen wegen der Zukunft dorthin,“ sagte sie, bezugnehmend auf ihre Zeit in Deutschland. „All das Geld, das wir nach Hause schickten, war für die Ausbildung unserer Kinder, um ihnen gute Jobs zu verschaffen.“ sagte sie.
"So, we went for the future," she said, referring to her time in Germany. "All the money we sent back for our children´s education helped them get good jobs," she said.
Interessant an dieser Aussage ist das Fehlen von Hinweisen auf so etwas wie Liebe oder Zuneigung zu ihrem deutschen Mann.
Bitte keine absichtlichen Missverständnisse jetzt; ich will damit nicht unterstellen, dass alle deutsch-thailändischen Beziehungen Tauschverhältnisse seien, die auf Geld basieren; etwa: Du gibst mir Deine exotische Schönheit und Jugend und Deine (vorgetäuschten?) Gefühle und ich bin bereit, im Rahmen meiner finanziellen Möglichkeiten entsprechende Zugeständnisse an Dich und Deine Familie zu machen.
Angesichts dieses sehr authentisch geschriebenen Berichts in der Nation bleiben zwiespältige Gefühle in einem nachdenklichen Bakwahn.
Bakwahn
es ist Frühling: Geh aus mein Herz und suche Freud ...
Paul Gerhardt (1607 - 1676)
Hier der Artikel aus der Nation vom 18. April:
The NATION: Published on Apr 18, 2004
Koh German in rice fields
Over span of 15 years, village ladies trek to Germany and find love, husbands
Family parties are the norm all over Thailand during Songkran, but they usually do not include groups of Thais and Germans celebrating together in front of their homes, which sit amid emerald rice fields.
Led by a male chef, the women busily cook and serve their families, who drink and chat for days. All of the Thais are cousins and many of them are married to German men.
They live on Koh German (German Island) - 10 kilometres from Doembang Nangbuad district in Suphan Buri - where big homes cluster on the banks of an irrigation canal, giving the illusion of an island and, hence, the name.
Before the Germans arrived, the village was called Koh Nongpho.
About 100 Thai households in the area have some German connection.
The party is especially lively one Songkran night on Koh German. "Tonight, they hired likei [Thai folk performers] to perform for one of their cousins who recently was lucky enough to get a German husband in Berlin," a grocer near Koh German says.
"I heard that girl had asked a ´spirit´ to help her find a husband during her three-month trip to Berlin. She promised to hire a likei for the spirit if she found success," another villager chimes in.
Jampoon (not her real name) travelled to Germany 15 years ago - one of the first in women in the village to do so.
Little did she know that she was starting a pilgrimage that would see many of her cousins and others follow.
When she first went to Germany, Jampoon says her family had fallen on hard times. Although she lived in a "rice bowl" province, she only earned a tiny amount of money - not nearly enough for a family to live on.
"So, we went for the future," she said, referring to her time in Germany. "All the money we sent back for our children´s education helped them get good jobs," she said.
Jampoon, who is back in Thailand from Germany visiting her family, said she met a German man and settled down there. She had two children from a previous marriage to a Thai man, who died.
Her German husband died six months ago and left her millions of baht from his retirement savings.
Lek, 43, is another in the family who snared a German husband. She said she remarried 14 years after her Thai husband died. She has one son from that marriage.
"I found the one who loves me," she said. "He drives a truck in Europe. I brought him to Thailand this year," she says before turning to translate in German for her husband. The man gives her a loving smile and a kiss.
Other women followed, leaving the village for Germany and finding German husbands.
But many of their neighbours think there is more to the women´s trips than they let on.
"They think we sell sex in Germany. It is not true. Many Thais in Germany might do it but not family´s members," said Jampoon, 57.
"We work hard there. I had a cleaning job there for years, eight hours a day to earn ?7 an hour. It is not a good living in Europe but it is a lot of money in Thailand," she said.
Another villager, Sompong Darathong, was once interviewed by a local newspaper, which ran a story that made "readers think we sell sex and we can help send Thai girls to Germany," she says.
While there are many cases in the village of women starting families and long relationships with German men, there are also some cases of women from the village going to Germany to work in the sex trade.
"Nobody is going to tell you they go to sell sex. But nobody knows what they are doing there," one sceptical villager says.
"Some followed their relatives to Germany and met men. Some started working at bars in Phuket and met men they developed a relationship," said Saeng, a mother of five children, who once unsuccessfully tried to go to Germany.
"Others got involved in matchmaking, sending photos and then marrying," she added.
"Some clever girls would ask their husbands buy them farm land, houses and grocery shops in Thailand under their names," she says pointing to one neighbour´s house.
Some women pay Germans to marry them to obtain visas and become sex workers in the country. Others get tourist visas, live in Berlin for three months selling sex and make as much money as possible during their brief stay.
"These groups are mostly young women who have a middleman find customers there. Some are charged as much as Bt200,000 for the trip. But it´s worth it. They can earn much more than that. After coming back, they would go again after their pockets were empty," Saeng says.
"How can we blame them when the situation here is like this?" she added.
"Living here, you cannot become rich even though you own a 100-rai rice farm. Even if you can grow rice three times a year, all the income is consumed by fertiliser, machine and pesticide costs.
"And living poor is not different from a dog´s life. Unless you have money, shit smells good if you say it does," Saeng said.
Saeng explains that many girls in the village dream of having German husbands. That includes widows and women who have "wrong" Thai husbands.
Jampoon says she will stay in Germany for at most two more years. She has lived there for 15 years, and plans to move back to Suphan Buri after she retires. Her cousin Lek has no plans to come back to Thailand.
"Living there is not as easy as many think and not everyone gets lucky. I am one of the few," Lek says.
Kamol Sukin
The Nation
SUPHAN BURI
Koh German in rice fields Deutsche Insel in den Reisfeldern
Ich bin immer wieder zutiefst entsetzt und bis ins Mark erschrocken über die vielen Thaifrauen, die sich bei uns in Deutschland prostituieren. Hinter jeder Thailänderin, die in einem deutschen Bordell „arbeitet“, steht letztlich ein deutscher Mann, der das auf der „Rechtsschiene“ erst ermöglicht oder ermöglicht hat.
Die Herzlosigkeit und Kaltschnäuzigkeit - vielleicht auch die Gedankenlosigkeit und Sorglosigkeit -, mit der deutsche Männer es zulassen, dass die ihnen anvertrauten Thaifrauen sich prostituieren, ist erschreckend und macht mich unendlich traurig und wütend zugleich.
Ich habe das erst wieder am vergangenen Wochenende in Hamburg auf St. Pauli beobachten können. Da gibt es ein Bordell auf der Großen Freiheit, in dem nur Thai Mädchen „arbeiten“. Ich konnte beobachten, wie mehrere bildhübsche junge Frauen sich durch den Eingang an ihren „Arbeitsplatz“ schlichen.
Zu allem Hohn steht auf der Eingangstür in großen Buchstaben:
„Thai, Girls, Girls, Girls“
Und in großer Leuchtreklame darüber: „Thai Paradies“.
Ich sage nicht, dass jede Thaifrau, die nach Deutschland kommt, sich prostituiere, aber offensichtlich gibt es einen relativ hohen Prozentsatz solcher Frauen, die – aus welchen Gründen, Umständen und Motiven auch immer – dann doch in der Prostitution landen.
Es gibt einen Soziologen, ein gewisser Professor Dr. Kleiber, der eine Reihe von umfangreichen empirischen Studien zur Prostitution in Deutschland vorgelegt hat. Darin stellt er fest, dass neben Frauen aus der Karibik und Südamerika sowie aus den ehemaligen Ostblockländern eben auch Thailänderinnen in auffällig hoher Zahl in der Prostitution zu finden sind.
So heißt es unten in dem Bericht aus der Nation (ich übersetze):
Es gibt viele Fälle von Frauen aus diesem Dorf, die Familien und lang andauernde Verhältnisse mit deutschen Männern gegründet haben; aber es gibt auch einige Frauen aus diesem Dorf, die nach Deutschland gegangen sind, um dort im Sex-Geschäft zu arbeiten.
„Niemand wird erzählen, dass sie sich prostituieren werden. Aber niemand weiß, was sie dort wirklich machen werden, “ sagt ein skeptischer Dorfbewohner.
While there are many cases in the village of women starting families and long relationships with German men, there are also some cases of women from the village going to Germany to work in the sex trade.
"Nobody is going to tell you they go to sell sex. But nobody knows what they are doing there," one sceptical villager says.
In diesem Zitat ist das Problem leider nur aus der Sicht der Frauen dargestellt, die nach Deutschland mit dem festen oder auch nur latenten Willen kommen, um sich hier zu prostituieren. Der Aspekt des einladenden deutschen Mannes bleibt hier leider völlig ausgeblendet. Ob er will oder nicht: Er trägt eine gehörige Portion Mitschuld an diesem Desaster, wenn es denn eintritt.
Überhaupt hinterlässt dieser Artikel einen merkwürdig ambivalenten Beigeschmack bei mir. Was ist das eigentliche Motiv der Frauen aus diesem Dorf, sich mit einem deutschen Mann einzulassen? Die Liebe? Oder ist es doch eher die Möglichkeit, an gutes Geld zu kommen?
So sagt eine der Frauen: “Wir gingen wegen der Zukunft dorthin,“ sagte sie, bezugnehmend auf ihre Zeit in Deutschland. „All das Geld, das wir nach Hause schickten, war für die Ausbildung unserer Kinder, um ihnen gute Jobs zu verschaffen.“ sagte sie.
"So, we went for the future," she said, referring to her time in Germany. "All the money we sent back for our children´s education helped them get good jobs," she said.
Interessant an dieser Aussage ist das Fehlen von Hinweisen auf so etwas wie Liebe oder Zuneigung zu ihrem deutschen Mann.
Bitte keine absichtlichen Missverständnisse jetzt; ich will damit nicht unterstellen, dass alle deutsch-thailändischen Beziehungen Tauschverhältnisse seien, die auf Geld basieren; etwa: Du gibst mir Deine exotische Schönheit und Jugend und Deine (vorgetäuschten?) Gefühle und ich bin bereit, im Rahmen meiner finanziellen Möglichkeiten entsprechende Zugeständnisse an Dich und Deine Familie zu machen.
Angesichts dieses sehr authentisch geschriebenen Berichts in der Nation bleiben zwiespältige Gefühle in einem nachdenklichen Bakwahn.
Bakwahn
es ist Frühling: Geh aus mein Herz und suche Freud ...
Paul Gerhardt (1607 - 1676)
Hier der Artikel aus der Nation vom 18. April:
The NATION: Published on Apr 18, 2004
Koh German in rice fields
Over span of 15 years, village ladies trek to Germany and find love, husbands
Family parties are the norm all over Thailand during Songkran, but they usually do not include groups of Thais and Germans celebrating together in front of their homes, which sit amid emerald rice fields.
Led by a male chef, the women busily cook and serve their families, who drink and chat for days. All of the Thais are cousins and many of them are married to German men.
They live on Koh German (German Island) - 10 kilometres from Doembang Nangbuad district in Suphan Buri - where big homes cluster on the banks of an irrigation canal, giving the illusion of an island and, hence, the name.
Before the Germans arrived, the village was called Koh Nongpho.
About 100 Thai households in the area have some German connection.
The party is especially lively one Songkran night on Koh German. "Tonight, they hired likei [Thai folk performers] to perform for one of their cousins who recently was lucky enough to get a German husband in Berlin," a grocer near Koh German says.
"I heard that girl had asked a ´spirit´ to help her find a husband during her three-month trip to Berlin. She promised to hire a likei for the spirit if she found success," another villager chimes in.
Jampoon (not her real name) travelled to Germany 15 years ago - one of the first in women in the village to do so.
Little did she know that she was starting a pilgrimage that would see many of her cousins and others follow.
When she first went to Germany, Jampoon says her family had fallen on hard times. Although she lived in a "rice bowl" province, she only earned a tiny amount of money - not nearly enough for a family to live on.
"So, we went for the future," she said, referring to her time in Germany. "All the money we sent back for our children´s education helped them get good jobs," she said.
Jampoon, who is back in Thailand from Germany visiting her family, said she met a German man and settled down there. She had two children from a previous marriage to a Thai man, who died.
Her German husband died six months ago and left her millions of baht from his retirement savings.
Lek, 43, is another in the family who snared a German husband. She said she remarried 14 years after her Thai husband died. She has one son from that marriage.
"I found the one who loves me," she said. "He drives a truck in Europe. I brought him to Thailand this year," she says before turning to translate in German for her husband. The man gives her a loving smile and a kiss.
Other women followed, leaving the village for Germany and finding German husbands.
But many of their neighbours think there is more to the women´s trips than they let on.
"They think we sell sex in Germany. It is not true. Many Thais in Germany might do it but not family´s members," said Jampoon, 57.
"We work hard there. I had a cleaning job there for years, eight hours a day to earn ?7 an hour. It is not a good living in Europe but it is a lot of money in Thailand," she said.
Another villager, Sompong Darathong, was once interviewed by a local newspaper, which ran a story that made "readers think we sell sex and we can help send Thai girls to Germany," she says.
While there are many cases in the village of women starting families and long relationships with German men, there are also some cases of women from the village going to Germany to work in the sex trade.
"Nobody is going to tell you they go to sell sex. But nobody knows what they are doing there," one sceptical villager says.
"Some followed their relatives to Germany and met men. Some started working at bars in Phuket and met men they developed a relationship," said Saeng, a mother of five children, who once unsuccessfully tried to go to Germany.
"Others got involved in matchmaking, sending photos and then marrying," she added.
"Some clever girls would ask their husbands buy them farm land, houses and grocery shops in Thailand under their names," she says pointing to one neighbour´s house.
Some women pay Germans to marry them to obtain visas and become sex workers in the country. Others get tourist visas, live in Berlin for three months selling sex and make as much money as possible during their brief stay.
"These groups are mostly young women who have a middleman find customers there. Some are charged as much as Bt200,000 for the trip. But it´s worth it. They can earn much more than that. After coming back, they would go again after their pockets were empty," Saeng says.
"How can we blame them when the situation here is like this?" she added.
"Living here, you cannot become rich even though you own a 100-rai rice farm. Even if you can grow rice three times a year, all the income is consumed by fertiliser, machine and pesticide costs.
"And living poor is not different from a dog´s life. Unless you have money, shit smells good if you say it does," Saeng said.
Saeng explains that many girls in the village dream of having German husbands. That includes widows and women who have "wrong" Thai husbands.
Jampoon says she will stay in Germany for at most two more years. She has lived there for 15 years, and plans to move back to Suphan Buri after she retires. Her cousin Lek has no plans to come back to Thailand.
"Living there is not as easy as many think and not everyone gets lucky. I am one of the few," Lek says.
Kamol Sukin
The Nation
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