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Spiegel: Ich koche Nudeln, weil es mich glücklich macht

Erstellt von michael59, 09.12.2014, 12:01 Uhr · 27 Antworten · 2.332 Aufrufe

  1. #21
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    soweit ich die Videos verstanden habe kocht er mit seiner Frau.Das ist natürlich eine ganz andere Voraussetzung als allein als Farang in BKK eine Suppenküche zu betreiben.Die Frau kommt nett rüber,also warum sollte er nicht glücklich sein mit ihr.

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    Zitat Zitat von michael59 Beitrag anzeigen
    Ahnung hat er zwar- aber in diesem Fall nicht recht.
    Du solltest richtig lesen, auf welchen Beitrag im Spiegel ich geantwortet habe und nicht immer eine Gelegenheit suchen dummes Zeug über mich zu verbreiten.

    Dies war der Beitrag auf den ich geantwortet habe

    In Thailand muss man mindestens 2.000.000 Baht (ca. 50.000 Euro) auf einem Festkonto hinterlegen, wenn man hier ein Business eröffnen will, ausserdem ist vielen Fällen ein thailändischer Teilhaber vorgeschrieben. Dann muss er als Ausländer mindestens fünf Thais einstellen, denen er den geseztlichen Mindeslohn von derzeit 300 Baht täglich zahlen muss und für sich selbst muss er ein Mindesteinkommen von 50.000 Baht monatlich nachweisen. Desweiteren müssen alle nicht über das BOI registrierte Arbeitnehmer und Geschäftsleute alle 90 Tage das Land verlassen (der sogenannte "Visa-Run"). Offensichtlich erfüllt er keine dieser Bedingungen und ist somit nach thailändischem Recht ein illegaler Einwanderer und Wirtschaftskrimineller. Er weiss schon, warum er nicht weiter darauf eingeht, wie er an seinen Gewerbeschein und die Arbeitserlaubnis gekommen ist! Und wenn er krank wird, dann darf der thailändische Staat für ihn aufkommen? Träum weiter! Unter dieser rechtsradikalen Militärjunta, die derzeit das Land regiert, dürfte sein Traum eh bald ausgeträumt sein. Ausserdem macht die Polizei seit Wochen in Bangkok systematisch jagd auf (überwiegend weisse) Ausländer, zwar hauptsächlich im Bereich Sukhumvit und Lumpini, aber gelegentlich auch in anderen, touristisch stark frequentierten Vierteln. Wahrscheinlich verkauft er bald keine Nudeln mehr in Chinatown sondern isst Reis in einem der Gefängnisse der Royal Thai Immigration Police.
    da habe ich dann geantwortet dass dieser Member keine Ahnung von TH hat, ebenso wie Du, sonst hättest Du die gravierenden Fehler dieser Aussage selbst gefunden. Dies kann Dir wohl jeder Member hier, der in TH selbständig arbeitet bestätigen.

    Aber schön das Du mal wieder eine Gelegenheit genutzt hast ....... leider ging das nach hinten los.

    Johann

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    Zitat Zitat von Chumpae Beitrag anzeigen
    und den groessten Manager aller Zeiten abgeben und in Wirklichkeit ...

    auch der Geldwert hat sich in Thailand erheblich verändert.

    Fluctuating Farang Fortunes
    The economic turmoil of recent years is just one of many factors which has contributed to the economic advantage Westerners in Thailand once enjoyed declining. Fluctuating exchange rates, zero interest rates, salary freezes and the collapse of pension schemes have seen some foreigners' spending power weaken. Many Thais don't consider all foreigners to be rich in the same way they used to.

    Expat society is every bit as stratified along financial lines as Thai society. From foreign executives in Bangkok earning million dollar plus annual salaries to Western retirees in far flung provinces living on less than 10,000 baht a month, it's hard to generalise about the finances of foreigners resident in Thailand.In the years following the Asian economic meltdown, English teachers in Bangkok felt rich compared to locals as unemployment soared and many local salaries went in to decline. Teachers made more than most Thais, even some Thai professionals, yet they were the poor cousins of expat society.

    Less than a generation ago, a monthly salary of 30,000 baht could go a long way for a single guy, affording a comfortable condo with plenty left to go out regularly, to drink and eat well - so long as you didn't frequent fancy places - not that there were so many back then. And a 30K baht per month salary didn't put women off at all; it was in fact more than enough to attract many. At that time office girls often started on less than 10,000 baht per month, and even university professors could start on as little as 6,700 baht per month.
    At the other end of the scale, those on expat packages made 10, 20 or in rare cases, maybe even 100 times what teachers earned. The range of salaries was huge.

    The economy was in the toilet, companies closed and many expats moved back home as their position was axed. In the period following the Asian economic crisis the foreign resident populace was said to fall.
    Expat society was less diverse, both in terms of nationalities represented (there were few Eastern Europeans, for example) and it often felt like there were only so many types of jobs performed by Caucasians. The real expats were in senior management roles, often sent from the main branch in their homeland. There were IT professionals, diplomats and there were teachers. There were plenty of other professions, of course, but they were much fewer in number than today.

    And then there were retirees. The late '90s and early '00s saw a weak Thai baht which caused many to retire (too) early. Their monthly budget was often 2 or 3 times what a teacher earned; a couple of thousand dollars a month spending allowance was around 80,000 baht. With a bottle of beer 70 or 80 baht, a pub dinner 250 baht or so and no such thing as a 100 baht coffee (Starbucks had not set up on Thai soil), single retirees had a sweet life.

    Everything changed. It always does.


    There could be as many as 10 times as many foreigners resident in Bangkok today, and the profile of those who have money and those who don't has changed.
    With starting salaries at some language institutes little changed from the late '90s, teaching in the capital can be a suckers game if you are employed at a language mill.

    With more international schools and major growth in EP programs (where the local Thai curriculum is taught in English by native English-speaking teachers), some foreign teachers earn the equivalent of $2,000 - $3,000 or more per month - plenty to live on in Bangkok if you are single; enough if you have a family and are willing to go local. Career teachers can make $5,000 per month in Bangkok and some make even more. Teachers are not necessarily the poor cousins of expat society any more.

    At the other end of the scale, there are fewer traditional expat packages offered - but there are THOUSANDS of expats in Bangkok earning several thousand dollars or more per month, the rough equivalent of what they would earn in their homeland - an annual 6-figure dollar salary - and often with a hardship allowance on top for good measure.

    But not all Bangkok expats are on full expat package. Many are local hires, meaning a less attractive package than if they had been recruited / placed from abroad, but still usually with a quite liveable salary of 150,000+ baht per month.

    It is in the mid-range of salaries for Westerners in Bangkok where there has been an explosion of expats - those in the 100,000 – 200,000 baht per month range - enough to have a great time and still be able to put something aside for a rainy day. In this income bracket you have everyone from the higher earning teachers to the lower earning expats to many of the digital nomads.

    Digital nomads are an interesting case study and no group has a wider range of monthly income. The digital nomad's monthly income runs the full gamut from almost nothing to well in to 5 figures US dollars per month.

    There is one group of foreigners which has increased dramatically in number, but whose spending power seems to have gone the other way. Retirees.

    Many retirees, particularly those who retired a decade or more ago, don't have anything like the same spending power they once did. When a dollar bought 40 baht and the pound 70, they lived large. But a combination of unfavourable exchange rate movements, inflation in the farang neighbourhoodsrunning well above the national average and zero interest rates in the West has seen their spending power diminish. Some have no more than half what they used to, in baht terms. Some have burned through chunks of their savings. And when you don't plan on working ever again, that's a worry. There's an argument that in some cases, retirees are the new English teachers.

    While income levels of foreigners in Thailand have bounced around, for the Thais it is all good news. Near zero unemployment has seen huge pressure on salaries and where many Thais used to struggle to earn anything more than survival level, today many earn a liveable salary.

    The other half's sister is university-educated but barely speaks a word of English – which can lull the ignorant in to thinking she isn't bright. Au contraire, still in her 20s she earns 120,000 baht a month. To put that in perspective, she takes home around $US 4,000 per month. That probably gives her similar spending power to someone earning the equivalent of $US100,000 in the West.

    A friend in a multinational tells me that a number of the executive secretaries at his company make 6 figures per month, and plenty of other local stuff – not professionals like engineers or lawyers or specialists – just senior admin staff and managers also earn around that amount.

    A friend at an NGO says the accountant is paid 80,000 baht per month. Many Thais in middle management roles earn closer to 6 figures per month than 4.

    There is much evidence of the increased earnings of many Thais, at least in the capital. Many of the better restaurants are full of Thais, where once it was mostly white faces. The days of foreigners making up 2/3 of the customer base in name restaurants is the distant past.

    The average Thai working in downtown Bangkok is doing so much better these days. Everyone has a fancy phone, many have a car and there is a stampede to the sales office when a new condo development is announced.
    Desirable Thai women may have higher expectations about the earning power of their other half - and why shouldn't they when many can make more than the foreigners who are keen to date them earn.
    It is my observation that many foreigners, particularly long-termers, have lost perspective with how little they earn in Thailand, especially if they are not in a professional role.
    Long-term Bangkok expats on low incomes or surviving on limited savings need to wake up to the reality that while, yes, you can live cheap in Thailand, spending 50,000 baht a month does not make you a man about town. That's but Bangkok middle class level today - and minimum wage level in some countries in the West.
    Recent arrivals have higher salary expectations than some long-termers who are living in the past and who still think 1,000 baht is a fair fare for a ...... and 250 baht for a burger and fries is 220 baht more than you would pay for fried rice.
    A Scandinavian friend with 20+ years in Bangkok was recently in his homeland for a couple of job interviews. When asked about his current salary, the interviewer said, “It sounds like you are working for free!”

    It used to be that the average expat had more money than all but the wealthiest Thais. It used to be that tables in the best restaurants were filled with foreigners and it used to be that foreigners nary looked at the menu in bars or restaurants when ordering. But everything has changed and today Bangkok is home to many foreigners who balk at the idea of paying 150 baht for a cup of coffee at Starbucks, while the Thais happily queue up.




    Fluctuating Farang Fortunes

  5. #24
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    Ich muss mich hier jetzt mal outen: Ich habe auch schon mal Nudeln gekocht. Glücklich war ich dabei nicht. Vielleicht habe ich etwas falsch gemacht.

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    Zitat Zitat von Uns Uwe Beitrag anzeigen
    Ich muss mich hier jetzt mal outen: Ich habe auch schon mal Nudeln gekocht. Glücklich war ich dabei nicht. Vielleicht habe ich etwas falsch gemacht.
    Ja hast Du. Nudeln kochen macht definitiv glücklich. Probier es einfach nochmal.

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    Zitat Zitat von DisainaM Beitrag anzeigen
    auch der Geldwert hat sich in Thailand erheblich verändert.
    Warum formatierst du den Text so dass man ihn kaum lesen kann? Ist ja noch schlimmer als auf der Stickman-Seite.

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    Zitat Zitat von pegasus Beitrag anzeigen
    Ja hast Du. Nudeln kochen macht definitiv glücklich. Probier es einfach nochmal.
    Nächste Woche lass ich meine Frau mal Nudeln kochen. Ich glaube, dass ich so eher euphorisiert werde, als wenn ich selber koche.

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    Zitat Zitat von Johann Beitrag anzeigen
    Du solltest richtig lesen, auf welchen Beitrag im Spiegel ich geantwortet habe und nicht immer eine Gelegenheit suchen dummes Zeug über mich zu verbreiten...


    Aber schön das Du mal wieder eine Gelegenheit genutzt hast ....... leider ging das nach hinten los.

    Johann

    Probier`s mal mit Nudeln kochen- das soll ja glücklich machen.

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