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Mein junges Leben in Thailand

Erstellt von ILSBangkok, 16.01.2012, 05:38 Uhr · 607 Antworten · 76.910 Aufrufe

  1. #571
    Avatar von DisainaM

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    Zitat Zitat von Yogi Beitrag anzeigen
    In dem Zusammenhang, kam die Idee von deiner Frau oder der Schwiegermutter?
    Du meinst, man hat ihm was durch die Blume gesagt,

    (such Dir eine Stelle, wo Du das Geld rausziehen kannst)

    und er hat die doppelte Bedeutung nicht verstanden,

    und fing an, sich um den ATM Antrag zu kümmern ?

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  3. #572
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    Zitat Zitat von DisainaM Beitrag anzeigen
    Du meinst, ............
    Ich hatte da eher an die Überwchungsfunktion gedacht.

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    Wird endlich Zeit, daß mal ein Farang ausbaldowert, wie diese Automaten zu knacken sind. Bemühe Dich also schon früh darum, den Automaten nachfüllen zu dürfen.

  5. #574
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    In DL ist doch gerade wieder so eine Panikwelle mit der Geldautomaten- und EC-Karten Manipulation. Die Leute sind in Angst. Haben ja so schon keine Kreditkarten, weil das ist ja viel zu gefaehrlich. Und Online geht schon garnicht. Irgendwie laueft in der alten Welt was schief, schon seit Jahren. Warum dem so ist konnte ich aus wirtschaftlichen Gesichtspunkten noch nicht ausmachen.

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    Zitat Zitat von MadMac Beitrag anzeigen
    Haben ja so schon keine Kreditkarten, weil das ist ja viel zu gefaehrlich. Und Online geht schon garnicht. Irgendwie laueft in der alten Welt was schief, schon seit Jahren. Warum dem so ist konnte ich aus wirtschaftlichen Gesichtspunkten noch nicht ausmachen.
    Dabei ist es mit den Kreditkarten ja ziemlich einfach.
    Als ich endgültig aus D verzog, habe ich denen - via Kundenbetreuer der Hausbank - mitgeteilt, daß ich nun in Asien sein würde.
    Fliege ich dann nach Europa, schreibe ich das denen - via Kundenbetreuer - auch. Mit Anfangs- und Ende-Datum.

    Oh Wunder: ab dann gibt es die groeßte Angst der KK-Organisationen nicht mehr: Daß die Kreditkarte sich in einem anderen Kontinent bewegt, als wo man den Inhaber der Kreditkarte wähnt.

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    Zitat Zitat von MadMac Beitrag anzeigen
    In DL ist doch gerade wieder so eine Panikwelle mit der Geldautomaten- und EC-Karten Manipulation. Die Leute sind in Angst. Haben ja so schon keine Kreditkarten, weil das ist ja viel zu gefaehrlich. Und Online geht schon garnicht. Irgendwie laueft in der alten Welt was schief, schon seit Jahren. Warum dem so ist konnte ich aus wirtschaftlichen Gesichtspunkten noch nicht ausmachen.
    Keine Ahnung, ob hier jemand in Angst oder Panik ist. Das ist auf jedenfall nicht angebracht. Vorsicht hingegen, kann nicht schaden. Dazu zählen ein etwas genauerer Blick auf den Geldautomaten. Bei großen Geldbeständen die Führung eines 2ten Kontos. Im Zweifelsfall bekommt man bei Skiming aber sein Geld in D problemlos von der Bank ersetzt.

    In Thailand stellt sich das unter Umständen etwas anders dar:
    Deutscher Frührentner verliert durch EC-Karten-Betrug 600.000 Baht :: Wochenblitz - Ihre deutschsprachige Zeitung für Thailand

    Und grade in den Touristenmetropolen fi....eren sich auf diese Art und Weise einig Ausländer ihren Thailandaufenthalt.

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    Man braucht auch in Thailand bei Skimming nicht gleich in Panik zu verfallen. Ist einem Freund von mir auch passiert, dem haben sie während eines Auslandsaufenthaltes 160.000 Baht vom Konto geräumt. Hatte kurz vor Abflug noch Geld am Automaten geholt, der war wohl verseucht. Hat sein Geld aber wiederbekommen. Also, auch in Thailand wird bei Kreditkartenbetrug nicht immer alles schlimm, meist sogar gut.

  9. #578
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    kaum ein Skimming läuft beim Abheben nur mit einer Karte, die haben immer mehrere beim abheben dabei,
    nur mit einer Karte, da denken die Banken an was anderes.

    typische ATM Karten Story
    I am going to share a little about my experience with Thailand and what it has given or taken away from me.

    The first time, I came to Thailand was in September of 2009. I stayed 5 weeks and could not wait to get back. I went back to the US and started looking for a way to get back to Thailand. Found it....I accepted a position in Afghanistan and then came to visit every 90 days or so for three weeks, essentially coming to Thailand for 2 months per year for 2 years.

    Of course, like most, I met a girl/freelancer and fell in love....How sweet. I kept coming to visit her and spent time "up country" with her. Then after around a year and a half or so she got pregnant. Well, not really but that is what she told me so that I would send more money I don't have any kids and I was "in love", so, I did not have a problem with that. 2 years in Afghanistan were coming to an end and I was going to take 3 months off to live with her and then return to Afghanistan for another year. Well, upon my return, she was not pregnant. Wow, shocking.. Of course there were the associated lies. That essentially meant that I would spend 3 months in Pattaya before I returned to Afghanistan. So, I stayed and rented an apartment and blew a lot of cash on beer, ladies, and Thai language lessons

    Fast forward 8 weeks into my 3 month stay and I hear from the "deceiver", lol. Of course, being totally stupid, I see her and I get this huge story about her family and how they take everything that I gave her......... I felt sorry (stupid me) and I figured to make this work that I would find a job in Thailand. Well, I found a job in Thailand in BKK and accepted the offer (I know everyone will ask where I found the job, I placed my resume online at jobsdb.com). So, all was great until I went to shower one day and she was gone along with her bags and my ATM card. Good thing for limits on daily ATM withdrawals (50,000 baht). So, I was set back 50k baht. Not the end of the world but I was "heart broken" and could not believe this. Wow, what a stupid girl to leave such a perfect guy (rofl). Ok, I already informed my employer in Afghanistan, so, I decided to give it a whirl in BKK.

    Wow, I found out that BKK was great. There were so many girls and no exchange of cash. Crazy. Every girl was a great looking college girl (great looking for me but my Thai friends don't share my taste, lol). I enjoyed living here and the setup was good. I met a couple of great looking Thai girls and one ended up moving in with me (for 3 months). That was a mistake. You should never let a Thai girl move in with you because then they don't want to leave. After she left because we were different or I seem to get bored with girls every 3 months (I think that is my limit), I ended up talking with another girl. Her weekend stays ended up somehow turning into living with me and she has been here for the last 3 or 4 months. Crazy. Now, I am asking her to leave and of course, she does not want to. I like her and she is a nice girl but I don't want to get married and don't want a serious relationship. Funny because I told each of the girls this and they agree but in normal Thai style what you agree to or what you understand does not really count.

    How could this have happened? I have lived in Thailand for over a year now and in BKK for 9 months and out of the 9 months, I have had 2 successive girls stay with me (one for 4 or 5 months and the remainder up until now). I guess it is easy to happen when you work. You go to work, come home and work some more, go to be and wake up and do it again. Time goes by very quickly.

    I guess I am bored and I don't feel the same way that I felt before. Anyone that works in Thailand knows that working here can be "challenging". The Thais are actually pretty easy to work with once you get to know them and they are comfortable enough to ask you for help and ask you questions but the other Ex-pats, that's a different story. Thailand is a Hierarchical society as most will know. This does not fit in particularly well with western society. If you work in Thailand for long enough, you will mold into the Thai way of thinking and doing business. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with that but it is difficult to adjust to. At my current stage, I look around and things look different to me. I see my position as a "go nowhere" position. I guess it was ok for a year but my year is over and it is time to move on to make contributions that will both benefit companies and myself both professionally and financially.

    Did I learn a lot about Thais and living in Thailand in a year? I am not sure. I have Thai friends and we will go out drinking together once or twice a month. I really don't drink too much anymore because I don't like the waste of time (next day is a total loss for me).
    I did learn that Thai's will never really say NO. So, if you ask someone if they understand something and you receive a set of drawings a week later, don't be surprised if your comments were not incorporated even though you thought they understood. Just because someone says yes and smiles and nods their head in affirmation does not mean that they understand. Work around after learning I was being misunderstood was to have the Thai Engineer that I work with explain my markups in Thai. This prevents problems every time because the explanation is in Thai and the Engineer that I work with understands English pretty well. So, lesson learned.

    What other lessons? Work related, if an Ex-pat works here for a number of years, he has a very similar style to Thais. That can make things hard especially if you are someone that takes their work too seriously (yes, ....). So, I would have loved to pick up a little bit of that carelessness but I could not.

    Girls: I did not date any "working girls" in BKK. The girls I dated were all ok. Never had any ask me for money but I do take care of them and give them some cash for taxis, food, etc. So.... There are tons and tons of girls and most want to date a foreigner (mostly for the financial aspect from what I have seen). I guess that is not different from any other girl. At work, the Thai girls will talk to your Thai guy friends and ask about you. They will not talk to you directly but will ask someone to ask someone if you have a girlfriend already. Pretty funny stuff but overall I think the girls are great. As a matter of fact, we (ex-pats) are probably the real ........ because it is so easy for us to pick and choose that we constantly move on and crush hopes. I guess what comes around goes around. The Thai bar girl screws up our heads and we ..... up the heads of the normal Thai girls. I have one crying downstairs right now because I want her to leave. So, maybe I am an ....... but to be fair, I always told her that I did not want a serious relationship.

    Cost of Living: Up to you. I love Thai food and eat somtom pretty much every day or sometimes salad and grilled pork. Cost of dinner for 2 (100 baht). That is typical. Cost of housing: 18,000 baht (3 bedroom 3 bath in a nice gated community). I hear that I got a great deal from my Expat colleagues at work. They say that this place should cost double. Cost of drinking, I have only been to Nana plaza twice in the 9 months that I have been here (understandable as I have had girls with me for most of the time). Mostly, I will ride my bike for fun and meet my friend for drinks at the market. 45 baht Leo (big quart) and tons of eye candy running around. Very sad for me because I always have someone with me (stupid me).

    Girls: No need to elaborate on that but BKK has them all. They all come to work here from up north down south, etc. They come to go to school......BKK has all the girls, imo. I have traveled in the 9 months that I have been here, hua hin, issan, Ko Chang, etc. I still like BKK the most. It is great. Every drive and trip to the market is great. The sheer amount of beauty is mind blowing. That will be the hardest thing to leave but I will come back for visits.

    When will I leave? As soon as I decide where I want to go: USA/Afghanistan/Saudi Arabia/Virginia. I still have not received an offer but I have spoke with 4 different companies and expect to get an offer pretty quickly. Am I stupid for giving up a good paying job in a great place. Maybe but maybe not because I can always come back to visit. I don't want to have to depend on a sole employer for my livelihood in Thailand. I have seen that once you have a family in Thailand, you are pretty much fixed here. Maybe that is good or bad but it severely limits your upward mobility and freedom to move elsewhere. Working here as an expat is not easy. A typical Thai Engineer will earn 20,000 to 30,000 baht per month. An Expat will be at 7 times that rate with other benefits like a vehicle. So, it is needless to say that the offers don't come rolling in here (at least not for my line of work - Structural Engineering or structural specialist whatever they call it here). Anyone who works here will know why there are such drastic differences in pay.

    In retrospect, it is funny how minds change. Before, I was of the opinion that you have to live life and enjoy life when you are young. Heck, when you come to Thailand and you are old with a lot of money, it will be too late. Maybe I have learned a little because I think that I have realized that work is a much bigger part of my life than I originally realized. That realization coming to fruition has lead me to look to go back to the USA or somewhere else overseas where I can continue to develop my professional skills and work. Also, maybe I am just bored already and looking to relocate The life of a serial mover

    I have not left yet and I am looking forward to my return trip, lol.

  10. #579
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    Aber typischerweise wird die geskimmte Karte mehrfach eingesetzt, um kleinere Beträge abzubuchen. Dadurch fällt das Skimming erstmal nicht so auf. Außerdem kann die Abbuchung in einem komplett anderen Bezirk erfolgen, z.B. Karte wird in Bangkok geskimmt und in Phuket verwendet.

    Man kann ja auch ein Tageslimit für die eigenen Karte setzen, dann haben es die Diebe nicht so leicht.

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    Zitat Zitat von pegasus Beitrag anzeigen
    Man braucht auch in Thailand bei Skimming nicht gleich in Panik zu verfallen. Ist einem Freund von mir auch passiert, dem haben sie während eines Auslandsaufenthaltes 160.000 Baht vom Konto geräumt. Hatte kurz vor Abflug noch Geld am Automaten geholt, der war wohl verseucht. Hat sein Geld aber wiederbekommen. Also, auch in Thailand wird bei Kreditkartenbetrug nicht immer alles schlimm, meist sogar gut.
    Für die Erstattung der Beträge ist übrigens immer die Karten-Ausstellende Bank zuständig. D. h. wenn Du mit Deiner deutschen EC Karte in Thailand Skimming-Opfer wird, zahlt die heimische Bank. Im von mir zitierten Fall handelt es sich aber um eine Thai-Bank. Ich will jetzt auch gar nicht behaupten, dass die sich dann immer so anstellen, aber in diesem Fall halt schon.

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