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Thaksin wird wirtschaftlicher Berater in Kamboscha

Erstellt von petpet, 05.11.2009, 09:30 Uhr · 139 Antworten · 3.912 Aufrufe

  1. #131
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    Re: Thaksin wird wirtschaftlicher Berater in Kamboscha

    Zitat Zitat von waanjai_2",p="794311
    Die Wirtschaft Thailands hat sich gegen die Schliessung der Grenzen zu Kambodscha ausgesprochen. Sollen doch die Politiker zurueckrudern. Schlagmann ist Suthep.

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingn...border-closure
    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingn...border-closure
    Ich vermute der Elite ist die Wirtschaft egal, wie 2008 auch.
    Sie wird alles daran setzen, um Kambodscha in die Kniee zu zwingen. Nur bezweifle ich, dass die Elite in diesem Fall den nötigen Weitblick behält.

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  3. #132
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    Es laeuft im Kern weiter alles im Rueckwaertsgang

    Kraisak Choonhavan is a member of Thailand's governing coalition. He says it may be necessary to call on the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to mediate an end the diplomat dispute.

    "I think it is time now for the ASEAN Secretariat to step up, perhaps a shuttle diplomacy toward this unsettling issue, and that Hun Sen should reconsider to reduce this antagonistic approach toward Thailand," Kraisak said. "You can only see escalation and that's no good for anybody, not only on a bilateral basis but as an organization as a whole."

    Kraisak waere damals die bessere Alternative zu Kasit gewesen, nachdem die Democrats wenige Wochen vor der durch das Militaer herbeigefuehrten Regierungsbildung ihren "geborenen" Kandidaten Sukhumband in das Rennen um den Bangkok Gouverneur hatten einsetzen muessen.

    Kasit ist und bleibt ein Hitzkopf.

    Thailand has not closed the border with Cambodia to avoid damaging their economies. Kiat Settheearmon is president of the Thailand Trade representative office.

    "We want to ensure that the livelihood o the people is not affected by the current misunderstanding," Kiat said. "I will say that and we will continue this path, whatever measures it might be it will be the least [impact] affecting the well being of the people of the two countries."

    http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-11-11-voa10.cfm

  4. #133
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    Aber das Interview mit Hun Sen - natuerlich nicht eins mit der Nation, die haben jetzt erst mal laengere Zeit ausgeschissen, sondern auf seiner eigenen Pressekonferenz spricht Baende.
    Warum die Nation den Bericht ueberschreibt mit:
    COWBOY DIPLOMACY
    muss wohl als direkter Affront gegen Kasit verstanden werden. Ist damit eine Aussage, die beim thailaendischen Menschen Verwunderung ausloesen koennte, somit eigentlich eine Bedrohung der Nationalen Sicherheit und gefaehrend fuer die Institution. Mit einer LM-Klage muss stuendlich gerechnet werden.

    "Abhisit could die from problems"
    Published on November 12, 2009

    Cambodian PM Hun Sen's recent interview showed no love lost between him and the current Thai government.

    Cambodian PM Hun Sen meets the press and following is an excerpt of his conversation.

    Problems with the Thai-Cambodia bilateral ties:

    The problem with Thai-Cambodia relations is really a problem between myself and Khun Abhisit (Vejjajiva), the prime minister of Thailand. Before anybody speaks about this, they need to understand that I have been working in politics when the Thai prime minister was still a child.

    Border closing:

    If you want to close the border, close it. Cambodia will take up action in response. Cambodia will close the border, as well as shut out economic activities as well. Even one mouse will not be permitted to cross the border. We can get Thai goods through other countries. In 2008, Thailand exported US$2 billion to Cambodia - but Cambodia exported only US$90 million to Thailand. I don't want to close the border as it would affect the people, but the Thai prime minister is making threats.

    Appointing Thaksin Shinawatra as economic adviser:

    I want to be clear to all Thai people that the government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is the one making an issue out of this. Cambodia has appointed a number of foreigners as economic advisers in the past, including Koreans and Australians and I don't see what the prime minister is afraid of. I have explained to the Asean meeting in Hua Hin, and I have been very patient about it, but I have been at the receiving end of Thailand's attack. It was Abhisit who went on and invalidated the MoU (on joint development of overlapping territory in the Gulf of Thailand).

    Who is really serving whom?

    Khun Abhisit is alleging that Thailand's dignity is at stake. But I want to tell you that the "red shirts" support this appointment (of Thaksin) but the "yellow shirts" don't. And there are those who are remaining quiet about this whole thing. These people know that the Hun Sen government is a good administration. My government is not being used by anybody. I think it's Abhisit who has become a tool of Thaksin. Whenever Thaksin opens up on certain issues, it is Abhisit who reacts accordingly and acted without thinking about the interests of the country and its people. He is using personal reasons to cancel cooperation between two countries. Can Thai people live with a leader like this? Can a person like this lead Asean? Asean will eventually become one market and possibly one currency but it's Thailand who is behaving aggressively against Cambodia. During the Angkor civilisation there were accusations that Thailand had lost territory to Cambodia. Study your history and you will see who is the real aggressor.

    What can Asean do?

    Cambodia is prepared to negotiate any place, any time, in a bilateral or multilateral setting. But it appeared that Thailand has already decided that this is not going to happen. Asean Secretary-General Surin (Pitsuwan) needs to understand that it has to be comprehensive and should include the 19 September 2006 coup (against Thaksin), the overlapping claims along the border, the appointment of Thaksin as economic advisor. You can use whatever mechanism you want, Cambodia is ready. I helped safe Thailand and Abhisit's face by not talking about this at Asean Summit in Hua Hin. You want to solve this problem you should go to the beginning. If this is about appointing Thaksin, then we need to all the way back to the 19 September coup. If Ahisit is so capable, why not dissolve the Parliament and call for a new election. What is he afraid of? I am the prime minister of Cambodia who received two-third of the vote and how much vote did Abhisit received or did he stole his seat from other people? If so how do you expect to respect you?

    Insulting Thailand

    Abhisit is faced with all kinds of problems. He could die from it. He has problem with all his neighbours, including Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia and Myanmar. Moreover, he has problem with the yellow shirt, the red shirt and the blue shirt and the white shirt. Even the yellow shirt are not united among their own kind. What due respect does Cambodia has to give Thailand? Appointing Thaksin has nothing to do with Thailand? I have told Abhisit that Thaksin is my friend. Friend don't betray friend.

    About disrespecting Thailand's judicial system:

    There is nothing in the Thai judicial system that is worth respecting. In the past Khieu Samphan, Nuan Chea was residing in Cambodia before they relocate to Cambodia [muss wohl Thailand heissen]. This was not only a violation of international laws and norms, Thailand even endorse Khmer Rogue and the peace process. I want the Thai people to know that the government don't even respect international law and so how can we even respect Thai judicial system?

    On Preah Vihear Temple:

    We negotiated with Thailand three times. We agreed to solve the problem peacefully. But the agreement they signed was erased with their feet. Thailand obstructed Thailand's bid (for Unesco World Heritage) and has the nerve to say that it has nothing to do with Cambodia. It's like they are calling us stupid. Thailand has used Preah Vihear as a hostage and used it to take down a government. I have asked Parliament President Chai Chidchob for help but he said the issue has passed the Parliament. Thailand politicised this issue at the expense of prolonging the problem.

    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009...s_30116424.php

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    Wer im Glashaus sitzt der .....



    - Cambodia's justice system fails to uphold the rule of law and on a daily basis it deprives justice to countless victims of crimes and rights abuses. Corruption is endemic in the police and judiciary, as well as political interference. Impunity is rampant, and the gravest of crimes, including murder, torture, .... and traf....ing of women and children frequently go unpunished if the perpetrators have money or influential connections.

    - The government uses the courts to attack its critics and political opponents. Rather than honour its repeated promises to strenghen the independence of the judiciary, the government continues its long history of interference in the courts for political purpose.

    How the justice system can be twisted or distorted in cases involving influential people is clearly evident in the case between Hun Sen and Mu Sochua, an opposition MP, which was described as "a mockery of justice" by the Sam Rainsy Party.

    In April Mu Sochua sued Hun Sen for defamation claiming that the premier had uttered a derogatory statement against her during a press conference. A few days later, Hun Sen filed a counter-suit against her and her lawyer, Kong Sam Onn. Her parliamentary immunity was eventually suspended by the parliament.

    Threatened with the defamation suit and disbarment, the lawyer withdrew from defending the opposition MP, forcing her to go on trial without legal counsel.

    In August the municipal court found Mu Sochua guilty of defamation and fined her 6.5 million riels, or about 140,000 baht. The verdict was upheld by the Appeals Court on Oct 28. She filed an appeal to the Supreme Court on Nov 10.

    Meanwhile, her lawsuit against Hun Sen was dismissed.

    So the next time Hun Sen or any of his men want to badmouth the Thai justice system, they should better clean house first. Otherwise they will be seen as just a clown.

    * Veera Prateepchaikul
    [url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/27510/people-in-glass-houses-should-not-be-throwing-stones[/ul]


    Diese Taktik ist auch von Herrn Thaksin allgemein bekannt, er hat ebenfalls prinzipiell Alles und Jeden in Grund und Boden geklagt.... meist um gigantische Betraege!


    Die Kuchenboxaffaere wo Richter mit 2 Millionen Baht bestochen werden sollten, der Anteile-Prozess wo er "ehrliche Fehler" eingestanden hat und mit nur einer Stimme mit einem "Unschuldig" davon kam - ganz Thailand hielt damals den Atem an...

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    Zitat Zitat von Samuianer",p="795839
    Die Kuchenboxaffaere wo Richter mit 2 Millionen Baht bestochen werden sollten, der Anteile-Prozess wo er "ehrliche Fehler" eingestanden hat und mit nur einer Stimme mit einem "Unschuldig" davon kam - ganz Thailand hielt damals den Atem an...
    So dumm/doof kann doch keiner sein, der im Gericht die Richter besticht.

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    Hun Sen und Thaksin, zwei Schwerverbrecher die lebenslänglich hinter Gitter gehören.

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    Zitat Zitat von Thaibär",p="795909
    Hun Sen und Thaksin, zwei Schwerverbrecher die lebenslänglich hinter Gitter gehören.
    Och zu den zweien können bestimmt noch 100te weitere sie begleiten.

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    Ja, wenn das mit den Gerichtsbarkeiten in beiden Laendern wirkich so aehnlich sein soll, dann versteht man ja eigentlich z.Zt. nicht, warum sie sich streiten. Heisst doch immer Pack schlaegt sich, Pack vertraegt sich. :-)

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    Zitat Zitat von waanjai_2",p="795950
    Ja, wenn das mit den Gerichtsbarkeiten in beiden Laendern wirkich so aehnlich sein soll, dann versteht man ja eigentlich z.Zt. nicht, warum sie sich streiten. Heisst doch immer Pack schlaegt sich, Pack vertraegt sich. :-)

    Mit "Pack" hast du unbestreitbar Recht, aber mit "Gerichtsbarkeiten in beiden Laendern wirkich so aehnlich sein soll" irrst du einwandfei, waani!

    Thaksin hatte es seinem grossen Freund im benachbarten Kambodscha nachgemacht... das hat sich seit dem Putsch geaendert, nun weisst du auch warum der Herr Thaksin meint die Gerichte sind "politisch motiviert" und "gegen ihn" weil er die Richter nicht mehr unter Druck setzten oder gar bestechen kann wie er es gewohnt war, den seiner Zeit war der Freispruch fuer ihn in Ordnung und die Richter O.K.!

    Aber a faellt dir natuerlich nichts auf.... sogar die tatsache das ein Rakesh Saxena sich jetzt verantworten muss...wer haette das gedacht!

    "Kommt Zeit, kommt Rat!"

    und fuer Thaksin kommt seine Zeit auch noch!

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    Jetzt droht auch noch die Mutter des thail. Ingenieurs, der geheime Flugdaten an die thail. Botschaft in Kambodscha weitergeleitet hat, zur Verraeterin zu werden.

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...thaksin-lawyer

    Wo doch - wie es ueberall und immer - so schoen heisst, dass die Regierung alles in ihrer Macht Moegliche tun wuerde. Ja, wenn sie so viel Moeglichkeiten wirklich haette. Mann kann als zukuenftiger Aussenminister nicht in einer bestimmten Art und Weise in den Wald hineinrufen und sich dann auch no darueber wundern, wie es herausschallt.

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingn...o-help-sivarak

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