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23.01.10, 05:52 #121woody
Re: Hmong-SucheZitat von DisainaM",p="815888
Die Schan-Staaten(TaiYAi) sind nach der Unabhaengigkeit Birmas vom UK durch eigenen Beschluss der Birmanischen Union beigetreten.
Erst nach dem Militaerputsch von 1962 und nach der darauf folgenden Zerschlagung der autonomen Rechte, kam es zu Unabhaengigkeits Bestrebungen der Schan, die von der Junta bis heute massiv unterdrueckt werden.
Die Karen-Padaung(Langhlasfrauen)sind zwar auch eine Untergruppe der Schan(Karen), sie leben aber uberwiegend in Thailand(Chiang Rai, Lampang, Chiang Mai, Lampang , Prae).
23.01.10, 06:59 #122
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"blaetterten 130 Millionen in bar hin..." glaubt ihr eigentlich jeden Scheiss, jede Ente?
Haben sie das Zeug mit einer 747 da eingeflogen und dann mit dem Schaufellader abgeladen, oder kam es gleich in Containern?
Duerfte gewichtsmaessig keine grosse Aufgabe stellen, mengenmaessig wohl schon, also nix im Attachekoefferchen...
26.01.10, 13:23 #123
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noch ein kleiner Bericht ueber das Schicksal von christlichen Karen in Burma
Spike in Anti-Christian Violence Feared before Burma Elections
Written by Vishal Arora
Friday, 22 January 2010 05:35
Attacks on Christians seen as politically expedient in majority-
CHIANG MAI, Thailand, January 20 (Compass Direct News) - As Burma's
military junta gears up for its first parliamentary election in two
decades this year, observers fear attacks on the Christian minority
Mungpi Suangtak, assistant editor of a New Delhi-based news agency run
by exiled Burmese journalists, the Mizzima News, said the Burmese
junta has "one of the world's worst human rights records" and will
"definitely" attack religious and ethnic minorities more forcefully in
the run-up to the election.
The military regime, officially known as the State Peace and
Development Council (SPDC), pledged to hold the election this year,
and analysts believe polls will be held after July in the country,
also known as Myanmar.
Suangtak told Compass that the Buddhist nationalist junta would target
Christians particularly in Karen state, bordering Thailand, and in
Chin State, bordering India and Bangladesh.
Many Christians are part of the Karen National Union and the Chin
National Front, armed resistance groups that have been demanding
freedom or autonomy for their respective states for decades, and
therefore the junta sees the Christian minority as a threat, said
There are over 100,000 Christian Chin refugees in India who have fled
the junta's attacks in the past two decades, according to Human Rights
Christians in Karen state are not safe. A Karen Christian worker
living in the Mae La refugee camp on the Thailand-Burma border told
Compass that ethnic Christians were facing human rights abuses by the
junta "on a daily basis." Most recently, Burma army soldiers attacked
a church, murdered a local farmer and injured others in Nawng Mi
village on Dec. 19, 2009, reported Burma Campaign UK.
Parts of Karen state fall under the "Black Zone" - identified by the
Burma army as an area under the control of armed resistance groups
where its soldiers are free to open fire on anyone on sight - and the
junta has been launching indiscriminate attacks to take control of
village after village, said the Karen Christian.
"Those who are not able to flee across the border during such attacks
are either killed or forcibly relocated in and confined to temporary
camps set up by the junta," the Christian said. "Since the army
litters surrounding areas with landmines, many local people die or get
injured while trying to run away from or coming to the camps to look
for their relatives."
Over 150,000 refugees from Karen and neighboring Karenni states of
Burma are living along the Thai side of the border, according to the
United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. More than half of them
A representative of the Free Burma Rangers (FBR), which trains and
sends teams of local people to help victims of the junta's attacks
inside Burma, said youths have been forced to become Buddhists in Chin
state, where over 80 percent of the people are Christian.
Printing of Bibles is restricted, and churches are destroyed on a
regular basis in the state, the source told Compass on condition of
Access for foreign visitors to Chin state is, with some exceptions,
prohibited, and the state is widely acknowledged to be the poorest
part of the country, said Rogers.
"According to one Chin, the reason Chin state is denied resources, and
foreigners are denied access, is specifically because the overwhelming
majority of Chins are Christian," stated a 2009 report by London-based
advocacy group Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW). "The SPDC has, it
is believed, taken a deliberate decision to discriminate against Chin
The report cited a Chin Christian man who had served in the Burma army
who faced discrimination.
"I had a colleague who was a Chin who became a Buddhist and he was
promoted," the Christian says in the report. "I was told to change my
religion if I wanted to get promotion. I refused to convert."
The report also quoted a Chin Christian as saying that students from a
Christian youth fellowship at a university in Kalaymyo, in Chin
state's Sagaing Division, collected funds among their own community to
construct a small church.
"However, in 2008 and again in 2009, 'extremist Buddhists' destroyed
the church building, and when the students reported the incident to
the local authorities, the youth fellowship leaders were arrested,
detained and then released with a warning," he said.
Suangtak said successive governments in Burma have promoted Buddhism
since General Ne Win took power in 1962, leaving Christians insecure.
"There is a general feeling in Burma that the state represents
Buddhism, and most Christians, particularly from conservative
sections, cannot trust the regime," said Suangtak.
Benedict Rogers of CSW said the junta doesn't differentiate between
individual Christians involved in armed struggle and ordinary
Christians who have not taken up arms.
"And when it attacks villages in conflict zones, churches and pastors
are often among the first to be attacked," Rogers said.
A Christian worker from Burma's Mandalay city, however, told Compass
that thus far he has heard no reports of any major anti-Christian
incidents there. He said he was hoping the junta would try to woo
people with peace rather than violence.
"But nothing can be said about the unpredictable junta," he said,
adding that it was difficult to receive or send information in Burma.
"Even in cities, the information infrastructure is limited and
expensive, phones are tapped and e-mails are monitored. And the press
is owned by the state."
Rogers, deputy chairman of the human rights commission for the U.K.'s
Conservative Party, said the Buddhist nationalist regime "distorts and
perverts Buddhism for political purposes and is intolerant of non-
Burman and non-Buddhist ethnic and religious minorities, including
Christians and Muslims."
Of the 56 million people in Burma, around 89 percent are Buddhist,
with only 4 percent Christian.
Given that the junta merely uses religion for political power, it
doesn't target Christians alone, Suangtak said.
"The junta has no respect for any religion, be it Christians or
Buddhists, and anyone who opposes its rule is dealt with harshly."
Burma was ruled by military regimes from 1962 to 1990; at that point
the National League for Democracy party, led by Nobel Laureate Daw
Aung San Suu Kyi, won the parliamentary election. But the regime
seized power again by imprisoning members of parliament after the
Rogers, who has co-authored a soon-to-be-published biography of SPDC
chairman Senior General Than Shwe, said that while the armed groups
are not perfect, they are essentially fighting to defend their people
against a "brutal regime" and are "not in any way terrorists."
"The armed groups have sometimes launched pre-emptive attacks on the
military, but they have never attacked non-military targets and have
never engaged in indiscriminate acts of violence," he said. "Even the
pre-emptive acts are conducted for defensive, rather than offensive,
Rogers added that resistance groups were fighting to defend their
"Individual Christians who have joined the armed ethnic groups do so
out of a perfectly biblical concept of just war, the right to defend
your people from gross injustice."
Added an FBR source, "In Burma, no one protects except the pro-
democracy resistance groups, and all relief inside the country is only
possible because of them."
The 2009 annual report of the United States Commission on
International Religious Freedom states that Burma's military junta had
"one of the world's worst human rights records."
"Burma's Christian populations face forced promotion of Buddhism and
other hardships in ethnic minority areas where low-intensity conflict
has been waged for decades," the report states. "In addition, a new
law passed in early 2009 essentially bans independent 'house church'
religious venues, many of which operate because permission to build
church buildings is regularly denied."
The report also pointed out that in January 2009, authorities in
Rangoon ordered at least 100 churches to stop holding services and
forced them to sign pledges to that effect. Burma, which the ruling
junta describes as "The Golden Land" on its official website, has been
designated as a Country of Particular Concern by the U.S. Department
of State since 1999.
Even after the 2010 election, little is expected to change.
The FBR source said the election was not likely to be free and fair,
pointing out that the new constitution the junta adopted after an
apparently rigged referendum in 2008 virtually enshrined military
"However, having an election is better than not having one at all,"
the source said.
28.02.10, 12:16 #124
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keiner misshandelt sie, Hmongs koennen besichtigt werden
US 'pleased' over access to Hmong in Laos
The US embassy in Laos said it was "very pleased" Vientiane had
allowed it access Friday to a village where thousands of ethnic Hmong
have been housed after their expulsion from Thailand in December.
Peter Haymond, the embassy's deputy chief, was travelling by
helicopter with Thai military, foreign affairs officials and reporters
on the visit to Ponkham village.
"We're just very pleased that the government of Laos... is beginning
to follow through on its earlier promises," Shannon Dorsey, public
affairs officer at the embassy, told AFP by telephone.
Rights groups and foreign embassies have been seeking access to the
returnees to ensure they are properly treated.
Bangkok sparked outrage in December when it defied global criticism
and used troops to repatriate about 4,500 Hmong from camps on the
border with communist Laos, including 158 recognised as refugees by
the United Nations.
Thailand and Laos both said the Hmong, who fear persecution for
fighting alongside US forces in the Vietnam War, were illegal economic
Friday's visit is a way "to show our sincerity in good treatment" of
the Hmong, Laotian government spokesman Khenthong Nuanthasing said on
Dorsey said the US would encourage the government to allow regular
access to the returnees.
She said the US was planning to provide "basic needs assistance" to
the repatriated Hmong, and was willing to do more.
According to the Vientiane Times, Ponkham village is being built in
Bolikhamxay province to house about 3,000 returned Hmong.
Human rights groups have expressed concern for the safety of the
returnees but diplomats say there have been no reports of
mistreatment. US congressmen earlier visited some members of the
01.03.10, 09:35 #125
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01.03.10, 10:22 #126
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was anderes ist es auch nicht, oder soll man es als Leben bezeichnen
02.03.10, 00:47 #127
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Re: Hmong-SucheLao and Thai high ranking officials on Friday visited the Hmong
development village of Phonkham in Borikhan district, Borikhamxay
See photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonkham5/
The Lao delegation was led by Deputy Chief of the General Staff
Department, Brigadier General Bouasieng Champaphanh, and included
Border Committee members and district officials.
The Thai delegation was led by Lieutenant General Nipat Thonglek of
the Royal Thai Armed Forces' Department of Border Affairs.
A representative from the American Embassy to Laos also visited the
Brig Gen Bouasieng said the aim of the visit was to obtain clear
information about the circumstances of the newcomers to the village.
They comprise a large group of Hmong who travelled to Thailand
illegally, hoping to be taken to a third country, but were instead
held in a Thai detention camp for several years. The group was
released from the camp last year and is now living in the government-
During the visit, Brig Gen Bouasieng explained Party policy to the
returnees, telling them about the Hmong people's shared ownership of
the nation, the unity among ethnic groups, various Lao laws, and the
He also informed the villagers about environmental protection and
health measures, to help them further understand government and Party
guidelines and policies.
Brig Gen Bouasieng praised and congratulated the local authorities for
the assistance they had provided to the newcomers, and urged them to
continue to spread information on Party principles.
He also instructed them to oversee the planting of crops and the
allocation of farmland, as well as providing grain and livestock, so
the Hmong villagers would have confidence in the Party's guidelines
and develop a sense of self-reliance.
The government is helping the returnees to change longstanding hygiene
and sanitation habits, thanks to awareness-raising campaigns by
The villagers are now clearing land so they can start farming and are
keen to grow crops and
build extensions to their houses.
Brig Gen Bouasieng told local officials to educate the newcomers on
good eating habits and new crop-growing techniques to encourage them
to abandon shifting cultivation.
At present, the village has more than 600 houses, 112 latrines, 40
gravity-fed water systems and artesian wells, which have been built by
A road link and connection to the electricity grid in Borikhan
district centre is being accelerated and is set for completion by the
end of this year.
Phonkham village is about 57 km east of the district centre and is
home to more than 3,450 people in over 600 families, most of whom are
The detainees returned to Laos last year after spending up to two
years in a detention camp in Phetchabun province, Thailand.
By Vientiane Times
(Latest Update March 1, 2010)
Peter Haymond, the US embassy's deputy chief, was checking whether any telecommunication signals available in Phonkham village
Niphat Thonglek, Thai military general, Bouasieng Champaphanh, Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Lao People’s Army, Peter Haymond, the US embassy's deputy chief to Vientiane, Khenthong Nuanthasing, Lao MOFA Spokesman.
Phonkham and Phakbeuak villagers meeting with the guests
Phakbeuak village (25 Feb 2010)
nach der offiziellen Lesart, noch einen kritischen Bericht,
07.03.10, 01:41 #128
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trotz der offiziellen Abschiebungen wächst in Thailand spürbar der Bedarf an jungen Laotinnen,
wie man vielerorts lesen kann.
07.03.10, 06:38 #129
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Die beiden Mädels habe ich mit meiner Frau im Knast von Banglamung besucht. Die eine ist 15 Jahre, die andere 17 Jahre alt. Wir haben Verpflegung gekauft, auch für die 8 männlichen Laoten in der Nebenzelle. Wir wollten 10 Tausend Baht Kaution für ein Mädel hinterlegen. Bis zur Abschiebung würden sie bei uns Wohnen können. Da keine einen Identitätsnachweis hatte, wurde das aber abgelehnt. Die Schwester der 15j., 17 Jahre alt arbeitet illegal als Prostituierte in Nakhon Sawan. Bis die Laotische Botschaft in Bkk einen Pass ausstellt wird noch ein Monat vergehen, danach gehts nach Nong Khai. Dort dauert die Abschiebung wieder 4 Wochen. Auf meine Frage ob sie missbraucht werden, senkten sie nur die Köpfe. Der Wachposten in Banglamung ist zivilist und 21 Jahre alt. Den Schlüssel zur Zelle hat der Polizist im Wachhaus. Als er meine Frau sah, bat er um die Schwester, welche genau so schön sein muß. Sollen wir ihm unbedingt aus Laos mitbringen...
Und hier noch ein Bericht aus der "Nation"
Some traf.....d women, who were detained at immigration offices, were escorted out of the office at night with permission from officers or ordered to have 5ex with officers. In one cases four Laotian girls were gang-..... by inmates at a Rayong police station where the women were detained on charges of illegal entry and gambling (Surita Sandosham, Sirinya Wattanasukchai, "Flesh trade shrugs off new risks," The Nation,
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