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  1. #121
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    Re: Hmong-Suche

    Zitat Zitat von DisainaM",p="815888
    Burma duerfte bald den 50. Jahrestag der Einverleibung des Shan Staates feiern....
    Das ist so nicht ganz richtig.

    Die Schan-Staaten(TaiYAi) sind nach der Unabhaengigkeit Birmas vom UK durch eigenen Beschluss der Birmanischen Union beigetreten.

    Erst nach dem Militaerputsch von 1962 und nach der darauf folgenden Zerschlagung der autonomen Rechte, kam es zu Unabhaengigkeits Bestrebungen der Schan, die von der Junta bis heute massiv unterdrueckt werden.

    Die Karen-Padaung(Langhlasfrauen)sind zwar auch eine Untergruppe der Schan(Karen), sie leben aber uberwiegend in Thailand(Chiang Rai, Lampang, Chiang Mai, Lampang , Prae).

  3. #122
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    "blaetterten 130 Millionen in bar hin..." glaubt ihr eigentlich jeden Scheiss, jede Ente?

    Haben sie das Zeug mit einer 747 da eingeflogen und dann mit dem Schaufellader abgeladen, oder kam es gleich in Containern?

    Duerfte gewichtsmaessig keine grosse Aufgabe stellen, mengenmaessig wohl schon, also nix im Attachekoefferchen...

  4. #123
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    noch ein kleiner Bericht ueber das Schicksal von christlichen Karen in Burma

    Spike in Anti-Christian Violence Feared before Burma Elections

    Written by Vishal Arora

    Friday, 22 January 2010 05:35

    Attacks on Christians seen as politically expedient in majority-
    Buddhist nation.

    CHIANG MAI, Thailand, January 20 (Compass Direct News) - As Burma's
    military junta gears up for its first parliamentary election in two
    decades this year, observers fear attacks on the Christian minority
    could intensify.

    Mungpi Suangtak, assistant editor of a New Delhi-based news agency run
    by exiled Burmese journalists, the Mizzima News, said the Burmese
    junta has "one of the world's worst human rights records" and will
    "definitely" attack religious and ethnic minorities more forcefully in
    the run-up to the election.

    The military regime, officially known as the State Peace and
    Development Council (SPDC), pledged to hold the election this year,
    and analysts believe polls will be held after July in the country,
    also known as Myanmar.

    Suangtak told Compass that the Buddhist nationalist junta would target
    Christians particularly in Karen state, bordering Thailand, and in
    Chin State, bordering India and Bangladesh.

    Many Christians are part of the Karen National Union and the Chin
    National Front, armed resistance groups that have been demanding
    freedom or autonomy for their respective states for decades, and
    therefore the junta sees the Christian minority as a threat, said

    There are over 100,000 Christian Chin refugees in India who have fled
    the junta's attacks in the past two decades, according to Human Rights

    Christians in Karen state are not safe. A Karen Christian worker
    living in the Mae La refugee camp on the Thailand-Burma border told
    Compass that ethnic Christians were facing human rights abuses by the
    junta "on a daily basis." Most recently, Burma army soldiers attacked
    a church, murdered a local farmer and injured others in Nawng Mi
    village on Dec. 19, 2009, reported Burma Campaign UK.

    Parts of Karen state fall under the "Black Zone" - identified by the
    Burma army as an area under the control of armed resistance groups
    where its soldiers are free to open fire on anyone on sight - and the
    junta has been launching indiscriminate attacks to take control of
    village after village, said the Karen Christian.

    "Those who are not able to flee across the border during such attacks
    are either killed or forcibly relocated in and confined to temporary
    camps set up by the junta," the Christian said. "Since the army
    litters surrounding areas with landmines, many local people die or get
    injured while trying to run away from or coming to the camps to look
    for their relatives."

    Over 150,000 refugees from Karen and neighboring Karenni states of
    Burma are living along the Thai side of the border, according to the
    United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. More than half of them
    are Christian.

    A representative of the Free Burma Rangers (FBR), which trains and
    sends teams of local people to help victims of the junta's attacks
    inside Burma, said youths have been forced to become Buddhists in Chin
    state, where over 80 percent of the people are Christian.

    Printing of Bibles is restricted, and churches are destroyed on a
    regular basis in the state, the source told Compass on condition of

    Access for foreign visitors to Chin state is, with some exceptions,
    prohibited, and the state is widely acknowledged to be the poorest
    part of the country, said Rogers.

    "According to one Chin, the reason Chin state is denied resources, and
    foreigners are denied access, is specifically because the overwhelming
    majority of Chins are Christian," stated a 2009 report by London-based
    advocacy group Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW). "The SPDC has, it
    is believed, taken a deliberate decision to discriminate against Chin

    The report cited a Chin Christian man who had served in the Burma army
    who faced discrimination.

    "I had a colleague who was a Chin who became a Buddhist and he was
    promoted," the Christian says in the report. "I was told to change my
    religion if I wanted to get promotion. I refused to convert."

    The report also quoted a Chin Christian as saying that students from a
    Christian youth fellowship at a university in Kalaymyo, in Chin
    state's Sagaing Division, collected funds among their own community to
    construct a small church.

    "However, in 2008 and again in 2009, 'extremist Buddhists' destroyed
    the church building, and when the students reported the incident to
    the local authorities, the youth fellowship leaders were arrested,
    detained and then released with a warning," he said.

    Religious Pretext

    Suangtak said successive governments in Burma have promoted Buddhism
    since General Ne Win took power in 1962, leaving Christians insecure.

    "There is a general feeling in Burma that the state represents
    Buddhism, and most Christians, particularly from conservative
    sections, cannot trust the regime," said Suangtak.

    Benedict Rogers of CSW said the junta doesn't differentiate between
    individual Christians involved in armed struggle and ordinary
    Christians who have not taken up arms.

    "And when it attacks villages in conflict zones, churches and pastors
    are often among the first to be attacked," Rogers said.

    A Christian worker from Burma's Mandalay city, however, told Compass
    that thus far he has heard no reports of any major anti-Christian
    incidents there. He said he was hoping the junta would try to woo
    people with peace rather than violence.

    "But nothing can be said about the unpredictable junta," he said,
    adding that it was difficult to receive or send information in Burma.
    "Even in cities, the information infrastructure is limited and
    expensive, phones are tapped and e-mails are monitored. And the press
    is owned by the state."

    Rogers, deputy chairman of the human rights commission for the U.K.'s
    Conservative Party, said the Buddhist nationalist regime "distorts and
    perverts Buddhism for political purposes and is intolerant of non-
    Burman and non-Buddhist ethnic and religious minorities, including
    Christians and Muslims."

    Of the 56 million people in Burma, around 89 percent are Buddhist,
    with only 4 percent Christian.

    Given that the junta merely uses religion for political power, it
    doesn't target Christians alone, Suangtak said.

    "The junta has no respect for any religion, be it Christians or
    Buddhists, and anyone who opposes its rule is dealt with harshly."

    Burma was ruled by military regimes from 1962 to 1990; at that point
    the National League for Democracy party, led by Nobel Laureate Daw
    Aung San Suu Kyi, won the parliamentary election. But the regime
    seized power again by imprisoning members of parliament after the

    Rogers, who has co-authored a soon-to-be-published biography of SPDC
    chairman Senior General Than Shwe, said that while the armed groups
    are not perfect, they are essentially fighting to defend their people
    against a "brutal regime" and are "not in any way terrorists."

    "The armed groups have sometimes launched pre-emptive attacks on the
    military, but they have never attacked non-military targets and have
    never engaged in indiscriminate acts of violence," he said. "Even the
    pre-emptive acts are conducted for defensive, rather than offensive,

    Rogers added that resistance groups were fighting to defend their

    "Individual Christians who have joined the armed ethnic groups do so
    out of a perfectly biblical concept of just war, the right to defend
    your people from gross injustice."

    Added an FBR source, "In Burma, no one protects except the pro-
    democracy resistance groups, and all relief inside the country is only
    possible because of them."

    International Disrepute

    The 2009 annual report of the United States Commission on
    International Religious Freedom states that Burma's military junta had
    "one of the world's worst human rights records."

    "Burma's Christian populations face forced promotion of Buddhism and
    other hardships in ethnic minority areas where low-intensity conflict
    has been waged for decades," the report states. "In addition, a new
    law passed in early 2009 essentially bans independent 'house church'
    religious venues, many of which operate because permission to build
    church buildings is regularly denied."

    The report also pointed out that in January 2009, authorities in
    Rangoon ordered at least 100 churches to stop holding services and
    forced them to sign pledges to that effect. Burma, which the ruling
    junta describes as "The Golden Land" on its official website, has been
    designated as a Country of Particular Concern by the U.S. Department
    of State since 1999.

    Even after the 2010 election, little is expected to change.

    The FBR source said the election was not likely to be free and fair,
    pointing out that the new constitution the junta adopted after an
    apparently rigged referendum in 2008 virtually enshrined military

    "However, having an election is better than not having one at all,"
    the source said.

  5. #124
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    keiner misshandelt sie, Hmongs koennen besichtigt werden


    US 'pleased' over access to Hmong in Laos

    The US embassy in Laos said it was "very pleased" Vientiane had
    allowed it access Friday to a village where thousands of ethnic Hmong
    have been housed after their expulsion from Thailand in December.

    Peter Haymond, the embassy's deputy chief, was travelling by
    helicopter with Thai military, foreign affairs officials and reporters
    on the visit to Ponkham village.

    "We're just very pleased that the government of Laos... is beginning
    to follow through on its earlier promises," Shannon Dorsey, public
    affairs officer at the embassy, told AFP by telephone.

    Rights groups and foreign embassies have been seeking access to the
    returnees to ensure they are properly treated.

    Bangkok sparked outrage in December when it defied global criticism
    and used troops to repatriate about 4,500 Hmong from camps on the
    border with communist Laos, including 158 recognised as refugees by
    the United Nations.

    Thailand and Laos both said the Hmong, who fear persecution for
    fighting alongside US forces in the Vietnam War, were illegal economic

    Friday's visit is a way "to show our sincerity in good treatment" of
    the Hmong, Laotian government spokesman Khenthong Nuanthasing said on

    Dorsey said the US would encourage the government to allow regular
    access to the returnees.
    She said the US was planning to provide "basic needs assistance" to
    the repatriated Hmong, and was willing to do more.

    According to the Vientiane Times, Ponkham village is being built in
    Bolikhamxay province to house about 3,000 returned Hmong.

    Human rights groups have expressed concern for the safety of the
    returnees but diplomats say there have been no reports of
    mistreatment. US congressmen earlier visited some members of the
    repatriated group.

  6. #125
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    Zitat Zitat von DisainaM",p="830951
    keiner misshandelt sie, Hmongs koennen besichtigt werden

  7. #126
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    was anderes ist es auch nicht, oder soll man es als Leben bezeichnen

  8. #127
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    Lao and Thai high ranking officials on Friday visited the Hmong
    development village of Phonkham in Borikhan district, Borikhamxay

    See photo:

    The Lao delegation was led by Deputy Chief of the General Staff
    Department, Brigadier General Bouasieng Champaphanh, and included
    Border Committee members and district officials.

    The Thai delegation was led by Lieutenant General Nipat Thonglek of
    the Royal Thai Armed Forces' Department of Border Affairs.

    A representative from the American Embassy to Laos also visited the

    Brig Gen Bouasieng said the aim of the visit was to obtain clear
    information about the circumstances of the newcomers to the village.
    They comprise a large group of Hmong who travelled to Thailand
    illegally, hoping to be taken to a third country, but were instead
    held in a Thai detention camp for several years. The group was
    released from the camp last year and is now living in the government-
    built village.

    During the visit, Brig Gen Bouasieng explained Party policy to the
    returnees, telling them about the Hmong people's shared ownership of
    the nation, the unity among ethnic groups, various Lao laws, and the
    Lao constitution.

    He also informed the villagers about environmental protection and
    health measures, to help them further understand government and Party
    guidelines and policies.

    Brig Gen Bouasieng praised and congratulated the local authorities for
    the assistance they had provided to the newcomers, and urged them to
    continue to spread information on Party principles.

    He also instructed them to oversee the planting of crops and the
    allocation of farmland, as well as providing grain and livestock, so
    the Hmong villagers would have confidence in the Party's guidelines
    and develop a sense of self-reliance.

    The government is helping the returnees to change longstanding hygiene
    and sanitation habits, thanks to awareness-raising campaigns by
    medical officials.

    The villagers are now clearing land so they can start farming and are
    keen to grow crops and
    build extensions to their houses.

    Brig Gen Bouasieng told local officials to educate the newcomers on
    good eating habits and new crop-growing techniques to encourage them
    to abandon shifting cultivation.

    At present, the village has more than 600 houses, 112 latrines, 40
    gravity-fed water systems and artesian wells, which have been built by
    the government.

    A road link and connection to the electricity grid in Borikhan
    district centre is being accelerated and is set for completion by the
    end of this year.

    Phonkham village is about 57 km east of the district centre and is
    home to more than 3,450 people in over 600 families, most of whom are
    returning detainees.

    The detainees returned to Laos last year after spending up to two
    years in a detention camp in Phetchabun province, Thailand.

    By Vientiane Times
    (Latest Update March 1, 2010)

    Peter Haymond, the US embassy's deputy chief, was checking whether any telecommunication signals available in Phonkham village

    Niphat Thonglek, Thai military general, Bouasieng Champaphanh, Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Lao People’s Army, Peter Haymond, the US embassy's deputy chief to Vientiane, Khenthong Nuanthasing, Lao MOFA Spokesman.

    Phonkham and Phakbeuak villagers meeting with the guests

    Phakbeuak village (25 Feb 2010)

    nach der offiziellen Lesart, noch einen kritischen Bericht,

  9. #128
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    trotz der offiziellen Abschiebungen wächst in Thailand spürbar der Bedarf an jungen Laotinnen,
    wie man vielerorts lesen kann.

  10. #129
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    Die beiden Mädels habe ich mit meiner Frau im Knast von Banglamung besucht. Die eine ist 15 Jahre, die andere 17 Jahre alt. Wir haben Verpflegung gekauft, auch für die 8 männlichen Laoten in der Nebenzelle. Wir wollten 10 Tausend Baht Kaution für ein Mädel hinterlegen. Bis zur Abschiebung würden sie bei uns Wohnen können. Da keine einen Identitätsnachweis hatte, wurde das aber abgelehnt. Die Schwester der 15j., 17 Jahre alt arbeitet illegal als Prostituierte in Nakhon Sawan. Bis die Laotische Botschaft in Bkk einen Pass ausstellt wird noch ein Monat vergehen, danach gehts nach Nong Khai. Dort dauert die Abschiebung wieder 4 Wochen. Auf meine Frage ob sie missbraucht werden, senkten sie nur die Köpfe. Der Wachposten in Banglamung ist zivilist und 21 Jahre alt. Den Schlüssel zur Zelle hat der Polizist im Wachhaus. Als er meine Frau sah, bat er um die Schwester, welche genau so schön sein muß. Sollen wir ihm unbedingt aus Laos mitbringen...

    Und hier noch ein Bericht aus der "Nation"

    Some traf.....d women, who were detained at immigration offices, were escorted out of the office at night with permission from officers or ordered to have 5ex with officers. In one cases four Laotian girls were gang-..... by inmates at a Rayong police station where the women were detained on charges of illegal entry and gambling (Surita Sandosham, Sirinya Wattanasukchai, "Flesh trade shrugs off new risks," The Nation,

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