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Erstellt von DisainaM, 30.03.2011, 20:19 Uhr · 67 Antworten · 14.529 Aufrufe

  1. #21
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    Schon wieder ein spektakulaerer Unfall mit Fahrerflucht,

    ein Monstertruck rammt einen Bus, toetet 7, verletzt 65 Leute,
    und faehrt weg.

    Nine killed, 65 injured in Thai highway accident

    Bangkok - A 10-wheel truck smashed into a bus for factory workers near Bangkok Monday, killing seven and injuring 65, police said.

    Two more people were killed when a pickup truck that had stopped to get a better look at the accident was hit from behind by a speeding vehicle.

    'This is a good warning against stopping to look at accidents,' Samut Sakorn Police Lieutenant Colonel Chaiyaphat Charoenwai told Thai TV.

    The accident occurred early morning in Samut Sakorn province, west of Bangkok.

    Police said the truck driver smashed into a lorry parked on the side of the highway to pick up the workers when he tried to overtake another vehicle.

    The driver fled the scene, police said.

    Source: http://www.monstersa...ighway-accident

    DPA Deutsche Presse-Agentur 2011-04-04
    Nine Killed, 65 Injured In Thai Highway Accident - Thailand Forum

    Nine killed, 65 injured in Thai highway accident - Monsters and Critics

  3. #22
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    Ein anderer Unfall, der bereits am 27.12.2010 passierte, erregt in Thailand zur Zeit die Gemueter,
    eine 16 jaehrige verursachte auf der Schnellstrasse einen Auffahrunfall, wo 9 Personen starben.
    Der weitere Ablauf gibt einen guten Einblick ins th. Rechtssystem.

    Das Foto Zeigt die 16 jaehrige Unfallverursacherin, die mit ihrem blackberry das Geschehen gleich ihrer facebook Seite meldet,
    innerhalb von 24 Stunden hat sie 180.000 Dislikes Meldungen auf ihrer Seite und tausende von Hassmails.

    Praewa ist mittlerweile so bekannt, es reicht den Namen bei google einzugeben.

    anyone living in Thailand and reads newspapers or browses the English based newspapers will recognise the picture above. It created outrage and social networks raged for days after this picture was published in Thai papers.

    Back on the 27th of December 2010, a 16yo old Thai girl nicknamed Praewa drove a car as she probably had many other times, but this time it was going to change her life forever.

    As she drove the car, a Honda Civic sedan along the Don Muang Tollway in Bangkok she became involved in an accident, an accident that ended up killing 9 people and injuring 6 others. I will not link to the disgusting pictures on, or the Thai Rath newspaper. Seeing pictures of bodies with brain matter splattered is something that should not be posted for all to see.

    I will try to be brief as I am sure many know all about this case already.

    Praewa’s car and a minivan carrying students and lecturers from Thammasat University Rangsit Campus collided. The accident caused the van to crash into the wall of the expressway and the force caused the 8 people to be ejected from the van to the road 20mtrs below them.

    There was outrage and hatred, within 24hrs of the picture of Praewa using her Blackberry phone, a Facebook page had 180,000 dislikes and thousands of pure hate messages. Some called for calm and people to wait until the investigation had run its course.

    Praewa had to be moved three or four times to different hospitals because of threats. Many were furious as they had thought she was using the phone to tell people on her Facebook page what had happened as people laid 20mtrs below dying, but she was apparently calling the owner of the car for insurance details and her parents, and this would make sense.

    People got angrier as Praewa and her well to do family hid her away, they were waiting for things to settle down. The police issued a summons to appear for the 5th of January. She appeared at the police station and was released.

    She was then informed that she would go to juvenile court to face charges of; reckless driving causing death and injury and driving without a licence.

    There is also a chance the person who lent her the car could be charged but Praewa’s defence lawyer was a little optimistic in saying this.
    He said “there were no traces showing the car ever hit the van”.
    Well there is a load of evidence. Let’s look at it.

    The video from the tollway, it shows the two vehicles and Praewa’s swerving just before the accident and then they go out of the cameras view. And then there is her confession!

    Praewa went on a Thai current affair programme. There she said the following things.
    "I'd like to express my sadness at what happened,"

    "It was an accident caused by my recklessness."

    "If I hadn't been speeding, it wouldn't have happened, or at least it wouldn't have been this bad."
    She said this about the accident. “She was driving at high speed and the van tried to move into her lane. She flashed her lights at the driver and he moved back into the other lane. She accelerated and the van moved back across and she felt an impact. She didn’t see what happened as she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and was thrown about and had to be helped from the car by rescue crew.
    So it is all there in black and white. She admits to speeding, not wearing a seatbelt, and also unlicenced driving as she is only 16.

    The victims to date, their families receive 200,000 baht initial payment for death and 150,000 for those injured. But the Civic’s insurance could payout up to 1 million baht extra for each person who died. Life is cheap.

    But on the 11th of April a victim’s family have filed a lawsuit of 36 million baht based on their son’s 50,000 baht per month salary for the next 28 years. They are suing Praewa and so they should, each and every family and person injured.

    A precedent needs to be set in Thailand. The owner of the car who let Praewa drive should be sued and also charged. Letting her drive a car knowingly without a licence, if she was not allowed to drive, there would be nine people alive still today. But this is all too late now.

    Should she go to jail? A 16yo old girl, who has made the biggest mistake of her short life to date.

    I believe she has to spend sometime behind bars, be it a juvenile detention centre and then a jail when she is 18, but sadly I do believe she should be jailed for sometime.

    Will this accomplish anything? The simple answer is, “no.” Will it make her a better person? “No.”

    But if not jailed then what? Make her work with accident victims for the next 10 years, go around schools and educate students. Tell students how a very bad decision can change your life and the lives of others for ever, in just a matter of seconds.

    I do think the second option is something really needed in Thailand, make people work with victims and educate the young.

    But if I was a parent of one of the deceased, would I be happy with this? I can say I wouldn’t. I would want justice to the full extent of the law. Let justice run its course.

    It is hard as she is a young girl and was failed by many, the person who lent her the car, her parents letting her drive, society in general.

    She is not the only 16yo who drives a car. Many Thai kids drive cars as well off parents think it is safer than them driving a car. Here are two situations I can tell you about.

    I was teaching a student privately, his parents own gold shops here in Ubon and also Bangkok. He is the most well mannered boy I have ever come across, so polite and respecting. From when he was in years 7 to 9 he studied with me. So from 13 – 15 years of age.

    His house and shop are close to me, so some days he would drive to my house with his dad, his dad was teaching him. Then the day came when he turned up in a top of the line Toyota Camry. He was by himself and he had been driving for a year I suppose. His parents brought him the car so he could drive to school called Benchama here in Ubon Ratchathani.

    The other time was when I was at my old school, I was doing after school duty and had to stand in the car park at the front of the school to stop kids being run over. A well off student drove in with a few others in a really nice Toyota and pulled up next to me. He was 15yo and I was not smiling.

    I told him and my exact words were this,
    “If I ever see you driving on the school property again I will take the keys and your parents can pick them up from the police station.”
    And when he realised I was serious or fair dinkum his face went blank and the driver who had very good English nodded. I never saw him drive in the school again. He parked in Tesco car park from then on.

    Adults need to change, don’t let kids drive cars until they have a licence and are competent. Adults need to realise what they did as kids is not acceptable today.
    Isaan Style!: How to Punish a 16yo Girl Who Made the Biggest Mistake in Her Life, Thailand.

    aussergewoehnlich in Thailand,

    der Prangerkult

    weswegen auch zukuenftig Fahrerfluchten vorprogrammiert sein werden.

  4. #23
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    mit 200 km/h soll der Sohn des Red Bull Eigentümers mit seinem Ferrari den Polizisten überfahren haben.
    Während der Sohn gleich mit dem Wagen flüchtete,
    dürfte sich sofort ein Zeuge um die Waffe des getöteten Polizisten gekümmert haben, und mit ihr verschwunden sein.

    Ferrari that killed cop 'was doing 200kph'

    THE NATION September 6, 2012 1:00 am

    Krating Daeng managing director Worrayuth Yoovidhya and his mother Daranee pay respects to the body of the late Pol Snr Sgt Major Wichean Klinprasert, who was run over by Worrayuth

    Police forensic experts believe Krating Daeng managing director Worrayuth Yoovidhya crashed his Ferrari car directly into the rear of a slain policeman's motorcycle at a speed of around 200km per hour.

    The experts based their belief on forensic tests on the black Ferrari and on the motorcycle of Pol Snr Sgt-Major Wichean Klinprasert.

    Worrayuth, wearing black suit and black sunglass, at 3pm attended the funeral of Wichean and apologised to family members, at Wat That Thong. He was accompanied by his mother Daranee Yoovidhya.

    A forensic expert, who asked not to be named, said evidence contradicted Worrayuth's claim that Wichean abruptly cut in the front of his Ferrari, preventing him from stopping in time or swerving to avoid impact. The expert said had the policeman's motorcycle cut in front of the Ferrari car, the angle of the impact would have been diagonal.

    Impact traces showed the Ferrari crashed straight into the rear of the motorcycle, leaving an imprint of the bike's exhaust pipe on the car's front.

    The source said the impact was believed to have happened while the Ferrari was travelling at about 200kph because Worrayuth suffered shoulder and chest bruises from the safety belt and the impact caused the safety belt to be released from its lock and activated the airbag.

    The source said the crash site was believed to be in front of Sukhumvit Soi 47 because there was blood at the spot.

    The expert said the body of the policeman appeared to have been stuck on the bonnet because there was hair, blood and the victim's police badge on it.

    The expert said the policeman's body fell from the car 64.8 metres from the crash site as there were more bloodstains at that spot. The policeman appeared to have died there, the source said.

    The source said the suspect might have swerved the car at about 200 metres from the crash site to shake off the stuck motorcycle. The machine was found about 200 metres away from the crash site at the corner of Sukhumvit Soi 49.

    There was a trail of engine oil from the Ferrari leading into Worrayuth's house off Sukhuvmit Soi 53.

    The source added that DNA samples collected from the safety belt and airbag of the Ferrari matched that of Worrayuth, confirming he had been driving the car.

    Senator Samak Chaowaphanun, lawyer for the Yoovidhya family, insisted Worrayuth was not drunk at the time of the accident early on Monday. Samak said Worrayuth did not try to flee the scene but went home to consult his father.

    Also yesterday, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said Thong Lor crime suppression inspector Pol Lt-Colonel Pannaphol Nammueng might be dismissed from police service if a disciplinary panel found that he had tried to arrest a scapegoat to help Worrayuth.
    Police officers look at a motorcycle and Ferrari that were involved in a hit-and-run accident during an investigation at Thong Lor police station in Bangkok, Thailand, on Monday.

    By Ploy Bunluesilp , NBC News

    BANGKOK, Thailand – Shortly before dawn on Monday in an upscale area of Bangkok, a 27-year-old Thai man driving a Ferrari crashed into a policeman on a motorcycle. The driver dragged him more than 100 yards along the road before fleeing the scene. The policeman, 47-year-old Sgt. Maj. Wichien Glanprasert, was killed.

    The furious reaction to the incident this week has shown one thing above all: most Thais have no faith in their justice system.

    ‘I don’t believe in Thai justice’

    The driver of the car was Vorayuth Yoovidhya, scion of one of the richest families in Thailand. His grandfather, Chaleo Yoovidhya, founded the Red Bull energy drink empire. Forbes magazine ranked the family as Thailand's fourth richest (not including the royal family) earlier this year with a net worth of $5.4 billion.

    Thais know from long experience that the wealthy are rarely held accountable for their crimes.

    “As long as you are rich and powerful, you can get away with everything,” said 40-year-old Ubonwan Weeyanond. “I don’t believe in Thai justice, it’s only a privilege for the rich, not for poor people.”

    Vorayuth fled back to his family's compound after the accident – police followed oil streaks for several blocks to the gate of the family mansion.

    momentan crashen die Kinder der reichen Familien in ganz Asien ihre Ferraris,
    man weiss noch nicht, wie man auf diesen Trend reagieren soll.

    Str / AFP - Getty Images
    Vorayuth Yoovidhya, the 27-year-old grandson of late Red Bull founder Chaleo Yoovidhaya, during the police investigation on Monday.

    The family then enlisted the help of local police official Lt. Col. Pannapon Nammuang to concoct a tale that somebody else – the family driver – had been at the wheel when the accident happened,
    according to Bangkok police.

    But online outrage forced the police to change their tune.

    Bangkok’s top police official, Lt. Gen. Comronwit Toopgrajank sidelined Pannapon (who denied wrongdoing, but admitted knowing the family well) and declared he would bring the culprit to justice.

    "We will not let this police officer die without justice. Believe me," Comronwit said Tuesday. "The truth will prevail in this case. I can guarantee it."

    Vorayuth was charged with causing death by reckless driving and escaping arrest by police, but was released on $16,000 bail Tuesday.

    Comronwit said that Pannapon, the officer who allegedly tried to cover up the crime, could be fired and brought up on criminal charges,
    according to a Bangkok Post report on Wednesday.

    ‘Do they think people are stupid?’

    Still, Thais remain skeptical that the wealthy young man will see the inside of a prison cell.

    “Thai police often make someone a scapegoat. They should not cover up the case because how many people in this country have a Ferrari?” said Varattaya Intarakong, a 38-year-old business owner. “Do they think people are stupid? But I believe that this guy will not be jailed.”

    This wouldn’t be the first time the child of a wealthy and influential Thai person got off without punishment after committing a crime.

    In a notorious case in December 2010, a 16-year-old girl driving a Honda Civic without a license collided with a passenger van that spun out of control. Nine people were killed in the crash. But the girl who caused the crash came from a privileged family and received only a two-year suspended sentence.

    ‘Teach him how to be responsible’

    Vorayuth's case has generated particular anger because he failed to stop to help the policeman, and tried to get a member of his family's staff to take the blame instead.

    Several Thais commented online that people who try to shift the blame onto a scapegoat should not be granted bail.

    The dead policeman's brother, ....anand Glanprasert, said he's particularly bitter about Vorayuth's failure to stop and help.

    “I can't accept how the driver hit my brother and sped away. If he hit him and got out of the car immediately, my brother might have survived,” said ....anand. “When I realized that he’s a son of well-known people, I want his family to teach him how to be responsible, not run away like this.”

    ‘Double standards’

    The issue of "double standards" for the wealthy and privileged is highly politically charged in Thailand. Many Thais argue that the courts sell justice to the highest bidder, and the tattered reputation of Thailand's judiciary has sunk even lower in recent years due to several clumsy political interventions by the courts.

    But the prospects for things to improve appear dim. The current Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubumrung was himself involved in an infamous case a decade ago when several witnesses saw his son, Duang Yubumrung, murder a policeman in a nightclub with a pistol.

    Duang went on the run for months, the family invented a mysterious scapegoat who they claimed was actually to blame, and witnesses began changing their testimony -- suddenly declaring that perhaps Duang was not the shooter after all.

    When he came out of hiding, Duang was cleared of murder, and despite widespread public revulsion, the distasteful saga did not damage his father's political career.

    Ferraris and fiery crashes around Asia

    Monday's incident is just the latest in a series of Ferrari crashes in Asia that have exposed national political divisions.

    In Singapore, where many residents are concerned about the level of immigration, particularly from mainland China, there was widespread outrage over an accident in May. A wealthy Chinese man crashed his Ferrari at high speed into a taxi, killing himself, the taxi driver and a Japanese woman who was a passenger in the taxi.

    And in China an explosive story concerning another Ferrari crash is creating a political storm in Beijing.

    The South China Morning Post reported this week that a Ferrari crash in March -- which was swiftly covered up -- killed Ling Gu, the 23-year-old son of one of Chinese President Hu Jintao’s most trusted aides, Ling Jihua.

    The younger Ling was allegedly driving recklessly with two semi-naked girls when the crash happened, leaving one of them paralyzed, according the newspaper.

    The newspaper says his father's political career was damaged by his attempts to cover up the crash. Perhaps it’s a sign that even China's powerful have less impunity than Thailand's wealthy.

    - - - Aktualisiert - - -

    mittlerweile ist es Anlass für Disskussion, warum sich Reiche bei Unfällen immer freikaufen können

    Associated Press
    September 4, 2012

    BANGKOK (AP) — People in Thailand often joke that prisons are reserved for the poor, because the rich and privileged tend to get away with murder.

    Popular online forums were filled with commentary Tuesday about the justice system’s highest-profile test case in years, in which an heir to the Red Bull energy drink fortune allegedly slammed his Ferrari into a policeman and dragged the officer’s dead body along a Bangkok street before speeding away.

    Police initially attempted to cover up the heir’s involvement by arresting a bogus suspect — underlining what many people describe as selective law enforcement and the power of political connections.

    But Bangkok’s police commissioner, Comronwit Toopgrajank, then took charge of the investigation of Monday’s accident. He suspended the district police superintendent for attempting to subvert the probe and vowed to deliver justice regardless of the defendant’s family name.

    ‘‘We will not let this police officer die without justice. Believe me,’’ Comronwit said Tuesday. ‘‘The truth will prevail in this case. I can guarantee it.’’

    Vorayuth Yoovidhya, the 27-year-old grandson of Red Bull creator Chaleo Yoovidhya, has admitted he was driving the Ferrari, but said the police officer’s motorcycle abruptly cut in front of his vehicle.

    Witnesses said they saw the sports car dragging the police officer dozens of meters (feet) as it sped from the crime scene.

    Police followed oil streaks for several blocks to the gate of Vorayuth’s family mansion. Photos of his charcoal gray Ferrari — with a crumpled front fender and a shattered windshield — were plastered on Thailand’s front pages Tuesday.

    He faces charges of causing death by reckless driving but was released on 500,000 baht ($15,900) bail.

    His grandfather, Red Bull founder Chaleo Yoovidhya, died in March at the age of 88. The Yoovidhya family was ranked the fourth richest in Thailand this year by Forbes magazine, with a net worth of $5.4 billion.

    One commentator on the popular Pantip Web forum echoed the skepticism of many: ‘‘If you’re rich, the verdict will take ages to be delivered, and will then come down as a suspended sentence. If you’re poor, the verdict comes faster than the speed of light: Go to jail immediately.’’

    That was the outcome last week for another child of privilege who killed nine people in a car crash in 2010 and was given a two-year suspended sentence.

    Orachorn Devahastin Na Ayudhya was 16 and driving without a license when she crashed her sedan into a van on a Bangkok highway. A court initially sentenced her to a 3-year prison term but reduced the sentence last week, saying she had provided ‘‘helpful’’ testimony.

    One of Thailand’s most infamous untouchables recently resurfaced in headlines. Duang Yubumrung, the son of Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubumrung, was linked to the 2001 shooting of a policeman in a nightclub brawl. He was acquitted of murder in 2004 on grounds of insufficient evidence.

    Duang has since joined the Bangkok police force and in July was assigned as a sharpshooter. News reports quoted his father as saying he was proud of his son’s skill because ‘‘His shooting accuracy is 100 percent!’’

    In a country that values deference and patronage, even the police oblige, said social commentator Somkiat Onwimon.

    ‘‘Police are afraid of influential people,’’ he said. ‘‘They treat the famous people differently and let them break the law.

  5. #24
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    Besoffen im Ferrari mit 200 km/h in der Thonglor...eigentlich so eindeutig, dass es nur eine langjährige Gefängnisstrafe geben kann.

  6. #25
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    In Asien ist man nicht vor dem Gesetz gleich,wer reich ist hat Sonderrechte!

    Die agressive Fahrweise habe ich hier auch frueher immer bemaengelt und ich wandere oft an grossen Strassen entlang.

    Auch Farangs fahren in LOS wie die Schweine,wenn man die aber erwischt gibt es keine Gnade!

  7. #26
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    dazu kommt halt auch ein anderes Sicherheitsgefühl,
    wer als Superreicher in Thailand lebt, und das heimische, gut bewachte Areal verlässt,

    weiss, dass er jetzt in die chaotische Welt von Armut, Kriminalität und Bedrohung eintaucht,
    er denkt halt im Unterbewusstsein, möglichst schnell die gefährlichen Stadtteile zu durchqueren,
    damit sich Menschen dort nicht freiwillig opfern und sich vor den Wagen werfen,
    damit die eigene Familie von der Ausgleichszahlung ausgesorgt hat.

    Man stelle sich vor, es knallt, man kommt zusich, sieht, wie die ersten Leichenfletterer beim toten Polizisten ihm die Waffe aus dem Holster ziehen,
    bekommt Angst, und fährt schnell wieder ins gesicherte Areal der nächsten Familienbasis-station.

    nichts desto trotz, nehmen die Hochgeschwindigkeitsunfälle mit Ferraris in asiatischen Städten rapide zu.
    vor wenigen Monaten in Singapore

    zum Glück haben heute schon viele Taxis inBoard Kamerasysteme,
    und zum Glück wurde das Video geschnitten, bevor es ins Internet gestellt wurde,
    denn die Taxifahrt ging natürlich weiter, zur nächsten Kneipe, und die Gesprächsinhalte waren auch nicht zur Veröffentlichung geeignet.

    Das Video mit Bildern zeigt diesen Billiardkugel-effekt, wie die angestossene Kugel mit der gesamten kynetischen Energie aus dem Stand auf die Geschwindigkeit der anstossenden Kugel beschleunigt wird.

    zum Glück überlebte in Singapore die 20 jährige Beifahrerin des Ferrariefahrers
    die 20 jährige Japanerin, die im Taxi sass, starb dagegen, wie auch beide Fahrer.


    in der Öffentlichkeit in verschiedenen asiatischen Ländern sind die superreichen, die zur Zeit ihre Ferraris crashen, wie im Mai 2012 in Singapore,
    aber auch das Auftreten der Superreichen in China, ebenfalls im Mai 2012

    eine Entwicklung,
    wo rücksichtloses Ausleben von Superreichen den Ärger der Gesamtbevölkerung erweckt,
    wenn man so will,

    keine gute Zeit für Ferrarifahrer in der asiatischen Öffentlichkeit.
    __________________________________________________ ________________________________

    Die Kernfrage gerade bei Unfällen in Thailand,

    muss ein überlebender Unfallverursacher eine Art Lynchjustiz am Unfallort befürchten, was ihn nötigt, sofort das Weite zu suchen ?

    Vor Jahren war es bei Unfällen auf dem Land ein Kampf, die Zeit, wo die ersten Personen am Unfallort erscheinen, um den Toten ihre Goldketten abzunehmen, und den Wiederstand der Überlebenden dabei mehr oder weniger sachte zu brechen,
    zu überstehen, bis die Rettungskräfte und die Polizei eintrift.

    Die Frage ist dann, ob dieses Wissen zur Unfallflucht berechtigt.

    Im vorliegenden Fall des Red Bull Sohns, wäre es für Familienangehörige ein leichtes, ein paar Millionen in eine Pressekampange zu stecken,
    und diese reale Gefährdung medienwirksam plastisch der Öffentlichkeit vorzuführen,
    wobei für die verantwortlichen in der Justiz es die Frage ist,
    ob sie zur Wahrung des weltweiten Thailand Images doch lieber auf so eine Auseinandersetzung verzichten,
    und eine Regelung im Stillen mit der Familie suchen, der den Ruf Thailands weniger beschädigt.

  8. #27
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    Zitat Zitat von DisainaM Beitrag anzeigen
    ...dazu kommt halt auch ein anderes Sicherheitsgefühl,
    wer als Superreicher in Thailand lebt, und das heimische, gut bewachte Areal verlässt,
    weiss, dass er jetzt in die chaotische Welt von Armut, Kriminalität und Bedrohung eintaucht,
    er denkt halt im Unterbewusstsein, möglichst schnell die gefährlichen Stadtteile zu durchqueren,
    damit sich Menschen dort nicht freiwillig opfern und sich vor den Wagen werfen,
    damit die eigene Familie von der Ausgleichszahlung ausgesorgt hat.

    Man stelle sich vor, es knallt, man kommt zusich, sieht, wie die ersten Leichenfletterer beim toten Polizisten ihm die Waffe aus dem Holster ziehen,
    bekommt Angst, und fährt schnell wieder ins gesicherte Areal der nächsten Familienbasis-station.

    Hast du mal mit deinem Arzt ueber deine sonderbaren Phantasien gesprochen ?

  9. #28
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    Zitat Zitat von Waitong Beitrag anzeigen
    Hast du mal mit deinem Arzt ueber deine sonderbaren Phantasien gesprochen ?
    weiss ja nicht, ob Du den Vorgang in der Presse verfolgt hast,

    als der Sohn sich auf der Thong Lo Polizeistation ankündigte,
    bestellte die Red Bull Familie eine private Sicherheitsfirma, die die Reporter auf Abstand halten sollten,
    um dem Sicherheitsbedürfniss der Familie gerecht zu werden.

    hat also nichts mit meinen Sicherheitsphantasien zutun,
    sondern mit dem Alltag der Superreichen.

  10. #29
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    In meinem Kommentar geht es mir um deine mehr als sonderbare Argumentation.

    Wenn der Unfallfahrer einen anderen Menschen toetet muss er mit Konzequenzen rechnen.

    Das kann sehr unangenehm sein der Presse oder anderen Fragestellern ausgesetzt zu sein,

    aber daran ist er alleine schuld, oder siehst du das anders ?

    Du betreibst hier Taeter-Schutz und das finde ich nicht OK.

    Wenn du schreibst... denkt halt im Unterbewusstsein, möglichst schnell die gefährlichen Stadtteile zu durchqueren,
    damit sich Menschen dort nicht freiwillig opfern und sich vor den Wagen werfen,
    damit die eigene Familie von der Ausgleichszahlung ausgesorgt hat.
    ...dann finde ich verhoehnst du das Opfer und seine Angehoerigen.

  11. #30
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    ist nunmal Realität auf Thailands Strassen, dass es sehr gefährlich zugeht,
    mancher kann mögliche Hintergedanken bei einer Unfallflucht in Thailand nachvollziehen,
    Du nicht, aber das ist Dein gutes Recht.

    Wir hatten schon häufiger im Forum die Frage diskutiert,
    ob man in Thailand, wenn man Zeuge eines Unfalls wird,
    anhalten soll, um erste Hilfe zu leisten.

    In Anbetracht der häufig vorkommenden gestellten Unfallsituationen, die den Autofahrer zum Anhalten und erste Hilfe verleiten sollen,
    wird im Allgemeinen gewarnt, auszusteigen und sich der Gefahr eines Überfalls auszusetzen.
    Ebenso werden von Motorradfahrern nachts Kollisionen verursacht, die ebenfalls in einem Überfall münden sollen,
    sodass bei vielen Autofahrern ein zum Teil irrationales Fluchtverhalten sich verankert hat,
    weil es schwer fällt, Situationen zu erkennen.
    Selbst eine Polizeiuniform stellt in Thailand keine erhöhte Sicherheit dar,
    da der Betroffende oft nicht einschätzen kann, ob es sich um eine echte Uniform handelt.

    Man kann eben nicht denselben Massstab, wie in Deutschland anlegen, dass sollte jedem klar sein.

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