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Einmarsch in Kambodscha

Erstellt von DisainaM, 15.07.2008, 21:15 Uhr · 218 Antworten · 11.477 Aufrufe

  1. #11
    Avatar von JT29

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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Übliches Geplänkel, kam an der Deutsch-Deutschen Grenze seinerzeit auch öfters vor ;-D

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  3. #12
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Keine Aufregung. Nix Einmarsch. 3 Thais wollten sich profilieren.
    Ganz auf die schnelle diese URL zusammengestellt. Der letzte ist am ausführlichsten.

    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/brea...ewsid=30078140
    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/brea...ewsid=30078135
    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_....php?id=128874
    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008...l_30078186.php

  4. #13
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Wird wohl alles von der konservativen Presse und dem werthem DisainaM aufgebauscht.

    Auf der Website des Aussenministerums steht folgendes:

    Statement concerning reports that Thai military personnel entered into Cambodia.
    July 15, 2008, 5:33 pm

    With regards to reports in the foreign media that the Thai military personnel entered into Cambodian territory in the vicinity of the Temple of Preah Vihear, Mr. Tharit Charungvat, Foreign Ministry’s spokesperson, responded as follow:

    Thailand would like to dismiss rumors that Thai military personnel entered into Cambodian territory. It is true that we introduce a few para-military personnel into the border area within Thai territory today. But this is only to ensure that the current protest by a group of Thai people in the area, about their beliefs on territorial claims, be done in an orderly manner. The Royal Thai army in the region has already coordinated closely with their Cambodian counterpart to prevent any misunderstandings.
    Statement concerning the three Thai nationals detained by Cambodian authorities
    July 15, 2008, 5:36 pm

    With reference to reports that on the morning of 15 July 2008, three Thai nationals were detained along the Thai-Cambodian border by Cambodian authorities while staging a protest on territorial claims, Mr. Tharit Charungvat, Foreign Ministry’s Spokesperson, confirmed that after close coordination with their Cambodian counterparts, Thai civilian officials and unarmed para-military personnel from the Royal Thai Army’s 2nd Army Region escorted the three Thai nationals safely back to their domicile later on in the same day.
    Demining Operations along the Thai-Cambodian Border
    July
    16, 2008, 6:17 pm

    1. On 15 July 2008, a Thai paramilitary ranger stepped on a landmine, resulting in a loss of his right leg, during an operation along the Thai-Cambodian border near the Preah Vihear Temple on 15 July 2008. The incident has caused concern to the Thai authorities as more landmines could remain in the area, posing danger to both civilians and military personnel. In addition, Thailand also has an obligation under the 1997 Ottawa Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction to destroy all anti-personnel mines in mined areas under its jurisdiction or control, as soon as possible but not later than 10 years after the entry into force for Thailand, which will be in 2009. In this regard, the Royal Thai Armed Forces Headquarters has dispatched a demining team into the area, which is confirmed to be within the Thai territory, to clear remaining landmines.

    2. The Royal Thai Armed Forces and its Cambodian counterpart have agreed to convene a special session of the General Border Committee (GBC) on 21 July 2008 in Sa Kaew Province, so that both sides can discuss issues together in a spirit of neighbourliness. The GBC – a bilateral mechanism which is co-chaired by the Thai and Cambodia Ministers of Defence, or their representatives, and meets on a regular basis, was initially scheduled to hold its next session in August 2008.

    3. In the meantime, the armed forces of both sides are in close contact.
    Der Aussenminister ist erst am 10.Juli zurückgetreten. War letzten Monat erst auf dem Pariser Platz:
    http://www.mfa.go.th/web/picdetail.php?id=3455

    Die Diplomaie funktioniert offenbar dennoch gut; wenn nur die nationalistischen Strömungen im Land nicht wären.

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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Hab auch ähnliches gelesen:
    Thai army spokeswoman Col. Sirichan Ngathong said (..) "We do not have troops inside Cambodia and we are not in the disputed territory. Thai paramilitary troops are deployed on the Preah Vihear mountain on Thai soil" Quelle: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...le-Dispute.php

    Dennoch bin ich skeptisch welche Infos nun überhaupt stimmen.

    Klaus, Du zitierst thail. Medien, wenn nun bei der www.phnompenhpost.com schaust, steht wieder was anderes.

    Scheint da schreibt jede Zeitung ihre eigene Geschichte


    Grüße ,
    Chris

  6. #15
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Chris, hat doch sinngemäß die Nation auch geschrieben (letzter Link). Auf Feinheiten lasse ich mich jetzt aber nicht ein :-)
    Und ich erweiter meine RSS-Feeds auch nicht auf noch 'ne Zeitung mehr. Sind jetzt schon insgesamt 41. Darunter aber auch Golem, Chip usw.
    Worauf ich hinaus wollte, schrieb schon ein anderer vor mir. Das nähmlich unsere Kassandra wieder zugeschlagen hat

  7. #16
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures...=worldNews#a=5

    http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures...=worldNews#a=6

    http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures...=worldNews#a=7

    http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures...=worldNews#a=8
    (Quelle: Reuters) sorry ich vergass..

    Fest steht, das regulaere thailaendische Soldaten da sind, bzw. da waren. Es wurde jedoch von beiden Seiten die Parole ausgegeben, erst schiessen wenn die anderen zuerst schiessen.

    Sowas kann sehr schnell ziemlich aus dem Ruder laufen...

    Chock dii, hello_farang

  8. #17
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Schwierig zu sagen, ob das alles wirklich nur Säbelgerassel — oder die Einleitung zu einem Drama ist. Klar ist wohl nur, dass die Situation extrem angespannt ist.

    "...Während der Oberkommandierende gestern noch davon sprach, dass es die Aufgabe des Außenministeriums wäre, das Problem der umstrittenen Grenzziehung vor dem Tempel in Gesprächen mit Kambodscha zu lösen, hat heute General Anupong Paojinda, der Armeeoberkommandierende, weitere Truppen in den umstrittenen Bereich verlegt, um dort die kamobodschanischen Siedler die sich rechtswidrig auf dem von beiden Ländern beanspruchten Gebiet provisorisch nieder gelassen haben, zu verdrängen, wie es aus Armeequellen hieß. Die Armee spricht von weiteren 140 Soldaten. Die Kambodschaner erklärten, dass nunmehr über 200 Soldaten und 50 Minenräumer vor und auf dem umstrittenen Gebiet aktiv wären. Thailand weigerte sich eine genaue Zahl zu nennen..."

    Hier der komplette Bericht:
    http://www.schoenes-thailand.de/poli...ah-vihear.html

  9. #18
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    More than 200 Thai troops now in Cambodia, Phnom Penh says

    Phnom Penh - The Cambodian government said Wednesday that a couple hundred Thai troops had moved into its territory in a dispute involving an ancient temple while a Thai military officer denied his country's soldiers had crossed the border.

    More than 200 Thai troops were inside Cambodian territory and 380 Cambodian troops were deployed to meet them, Cambodian Information Minister Khieu Kanharith said while denying bilateral relations were strained.

    'They are living altogether, and there is no conflict between them,' blink.gif he said at a press conference at the Information Ministry.

    However, Major Kanok Natrakawessena, commander of the Thai Army's Suranaree task force along Thailand's border with Cambodia, said no Thai soldiers had crossed into Cambodian territory.

    According to the Cambodian government, Thai troops clad in black - a colour that evokes memories of the Khmer Rouge to many Cambodians and is regarded as particularly menacing - began arriving Tuesday at the northern Preah Vihear temple, about 300 kilometres north of Phnom Penh.

    Tensions have been building since Cambodia again asked UNESCO to list the 11th-century Hindu temple as a World Heritage Site in 2007 and the United Nations cultural body granted that wish on July 9.

    The temple was awarded to Cambodia in 1962 by the International Court in The Hague, but the surrounding border area is still disputed, and many Thais were angered by the decision. Thai protesters have been camped out on the border for weeks.

    'Please, I urge journalists not to inflame this situation,' Kanharith said.

    The Cambodian government has urged calm with national elections, which are held every five years, two weeks away, and Cambodians seem to have obliged.

    In 2003, angry Cambodians torched the Thai embassy and some businesses over a false rumour that a Thai actress had said the country's other World Heritage Site, the Angkor Wat temple, was Thai.

    Kanharith declined comment on reports that more Thai troops were massing in the north-western Cambodian province of Banteay Meanchey, also on the Thai border and around 200 kilometres from the temple.

    Cambodia briefly detained and then released three Thai protesters Tuesday, but their arrest was followed, the Cambodian government said, by the arrival of 40 armed Thai troops at the temple, which is sacred to both sides.

    Thailand's Kanok denied Cambodia's claims from Tuesday that some of those Thai soldiers were detained.

    Cambodia has said all Thais are free to return after signing agreements that they trespassed on Cambodian soil and apologize. The Cambodian government denied they were under arrest.

    Kanharith said Thailand had discussed the issue by telephone with Defence Minister Tea Banh, who has strong Thai connections and speaks fluent Thai, and added Prime Minister Hun Sen and representatives of his Interior and Foreign ministries had also met about the issue Wednesday.

    Border authorities were unavailable for comment.

    - DPA


    Thailand boosts forces on border in temple feud with Cambodia

    Thailand has boosted its military forces on disputed land at the Cambodian border, an army official said Wednesday, after two days of simmering tensions over an ancient Hindu temple.

    Publicly, officials from both nations have called for talks to peacefully resolve the dispute over a 4.6-square-kilometre (1.8-square-mile) area near the 11th-century Preah Vihear temple that is home to a small Cambodian village.

    But Thailand's army chief, General Anupong Paojinda, ordered 140 elite soldiers to the border to pressure Cambodia to the bargaining table, an army official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

    Thailand is angry that Cambodia has allowed its people to build a village in the disputed area, he said.

    "The additional 140 troops will work in a temporary outpost to press Cambodian officials to bring the issue to Township Border Committee, so Thailand can push the Cambodian community out of the overlapping area," the official said.

    More than 250 Thai forces and 380 Cambodian soldiers were already stationed around a Buddhist pagoda in the disputed territory, located on the slope of a mountain leading to the ruins of the ancient Khmer temple.

    Thailand's air force chief Chalit Pukbhasuk told reporters that an F-16 fighter was conducting surveillance flights over the region.

    "Which country does that disputed area belong to?" he said, expressing frustration at the standoff.

    "Has Cambodia staged a de facto occupation of the area?"

    Cambodian government spokesman Khieu Kanharith said that his country was ready to hold talks, but did not say whether Phnom Penh would discuss border demarcation.

    "We are ready to meet, and after that we will decide what to discuss. What we want to discuss is the presence of the two forces," he told AFP.

    In Bangkok, Anupong also urged talks.

    "There should be negotiations between the two countries. The problem has been unaddressed for a long time because there has been no demarcation of the border yet," he told reporters.

    The standoff began after three Thai protesters crossed a Cambodian military barricade to try to reach Preah Vihear. Cambodia arrested them, but returned them to Thailand later in the day.

    But following the arrest, dozens of Thai soldiers arrived at the Buddhist pagoda in the village in the disputed zone. Both sides have slowly increased their troop presence, though no violence has broken out.

    One Thai soldier was injured when he stepped on a land mine in the disputed zone, possibly a remnant from the decades of war that once plagued the border.

    The incident comes amid heightened political tensions in both countries after the UN cultural agency UNESCO awarded the temple World Heritage status earlier this month.

    Cambodia is preparing for general elections on July 27, when Prime Minister Hun Sen is expected to extend his decades-long grip on power.

    He has portrayed the UN recognition of the ruins as a national triumph, organising huge public celebrations.

    In Thailand, critics of Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej -- already the target of street protests -- have stoked the temple controversy to fire up nationalist sentiment.

    Samak's government had originally signed a deal supporting Cambodia's bid to make the ruins a World Heritage site, but a court overturned the pact, forcing the resignation of foreign minister Noppadon Pattama.

    The parliamentary opposition is now mulling impeachment motions against the entire cabinet.

    The World Court ruled in 1962 that Preah Vihear belongs to Cambodia. The exact border around the ruins remains in dispute, with the main compound lying inside Cambodia but the most accessible entrance at the foot of a mountain in Thailand.

    - AFP

  10. #19
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    Re: Einmarsch in Kambodscha

    Haben bei Bangkok Post vorhin gelesen, das eine 10 km Bannmeile fuer Autos und Medien eingerichtet wurde auf thailaendischer Seite.

    Zitat aus den breaking news:
    The troop movements by both countries heightened tension at the border, and the Thai authorities have restricted vehicles and media from a 10km radius of the ancient temple.
    Zitatende

    Chock dii, hello_farang

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    The troop movements by both countries heightened tension at the border, and the Thai authorities have restricted vehicles and media from a 10km radius of the ancient temple.
    Zitatende
    weiß überhaupt nicht was die Aufregung soll .
    Werden vielleicht zur Gesichtswahrung ein paar Handgranaten ausgegetauscht und das wird es dann auch gewesen sein. Wer registriert denn schon die Grenzzwischenfälle Laos/Burma.

    Gruß Sunnyboy
    (und wer die meisten Erdäpfel wirft kriegt die Vermarktungsrechte)

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