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DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

Erstellt von phimax, 16.05.2010, 15:23 Uhr · 2.290 Antworten · 59.383 Aufrufe

  1. #321
    petpet
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von Samuianer",p="858431
    ****
    Dein Geschrei interessiert mich nun wirklich nicht!

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  3. #322
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von Silom",p="858429

    Selbst Blinde erkennen, dass seit Aufruhr der gelben Terroristen, das Land langsam aber stetig gen Abgrund zuläuft.





    Jau wegen der "gelben Terroristen" klar geht seit dem NUR bergab.... in steigendem Tempo!


    Deswegen wurde auch auf Sondhi das Attentat veruebt - ahc nee, das hater selbst inszeniert...


    jau sag ich ja, Blinde, voellig blind, selbst auf den Huehneraugen - wie du und deine Gesinnungsgenossen!

    ;-D

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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von petpet",p="858432
    Zitat Zitat von Samuianer",p="858431
    ****
    Dein Geschrei interessiert mich nun wirklich nicht!

    Das ist klar - weil dir dazu NICHTS, Null einfaellt!




    So kenn ich euch!

    Grosse Fresse und 0 dahinter wenn man mal reinhakt! ;-D

  5. #324
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Es wird gemunkelt, das die angloamerikanische Achse Thailand arglistig in die Krise manipuliert hat. Es gab da diverse Geheimtreffen, George Soros war dabei, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates und Steve Jobs auch.

    Nachdem sie erst Deutschland arglistig und böswillig in die Krise manipuliert haben, ist jetzt logischerweise Thailand dran.

  6. #325
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Kannst Du Dir nicht vorstellen, dass die 30 THB eher ein symbolischer Beitrag sind, dass da noch Staatsgelder eine nicht ganz unbedeutende Rolle spielen?
    Selbstverständlich. Nur wird ja vorgegaukelt, für diese 30 Bath eine sinnvolle medizinische Versorgung zu bekommen.

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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von mipooh",p="858436
    Kannst Du Dir nicht vorstellen, dass die 30 THB eher ein symbolischer Beitrag sind, dass da noch Staatsgelder eine nicht ganz unbedeutende Rolle spielen?
    Selbstverständlich. Nur wird ja vorgegaukelt, für diese 30 Bath eine sinnvolle medizinische Versorgung zu bekommen.
    In diesem Forum gibt's nicht nur Militaer- und Thai Politik Experten, sondern auch Journalisten und Gesundheit5experten. Komischerweise sind das alles die selben Leute. Man haben wir Experten hier....

  8. #327
    petpet
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von mipooh",p="858436
    Kannst Du Dir nicht vorstellen, dass die 30 THB eher ein symbolischer Beitrag sind, dass da noch Staatsgelder eine nicht ganz unbedeutende Rolle spielen?
    Selbstverständlich. Nur wird ja vorgegaukelt, für diese 30 Bath eine sinnvolle medizinische Versorgung zu bekommen.
    Quatsch! Es wird nichts vorgegaukelt, es wurde aus einer nicht vorhandenen Grundversorgung eine unzureichende Grundversorgung gemacht! Das ist allemal ein Anfang!

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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von Samuianer",p="858433
    *
    Argumentieren scheint für Dich auch ein Fremdwort zu sein.

    Ich habe jedenfalls meine Sinne noch zusammen.

  10. #329
    Bukeo
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Hier mal eine genaue perfekte Einschätzung:


    Red leaders all miscalculated and are losing

    * Published: 17/05/2010 at 12:00 AM
    * Newspaper section: News

    All red shirt leaders except Veera Musikhapong are carrying battle wounds despite sitting safely behind the battlelines out of sight of the soldiers. They have, to put it quite simply, shot themselves in the foot.

    Leading campaigners of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship only have themselves to blame for making a seriously wrong move against Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his government.

    If only they had agreed to disperse the protest after Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban reported to the Department of Special Investigation last week, they would have emerged as the winner of the political standoff. The leaders could have told the demonstrators that they successfully forced the prime minister to call an early poll.

    In fact, the offer by Mr Abhisit was the best ever since the red shirts converged on the capital in mid-March. And its political arm, the Puea Thai Party, also has a chance to win the election if it comes early. The party remains strong in many constituencies in the northern and northeastern provinces because of the popularity of deposed former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his freebies and populist policies when he was in power from 2001-2006.

    A quick return to administrative power is what Thaksin's supporters want to maintain the legacy of Thaksin, among other things.

    But that chance had slipped away from Natthawut Saikua, Jatu.... Prompan, Weng Tojirakarn and others who are masterminding the demonstration when they promptly replied with more demands from the government, including making the deputy premier turn himself in to police.

    The hardliners in the UDD wanted to corner Mr Abhisit with more conditions, while the moderate camp led by Mr Veera tried in vain to convince the others to stop the rally by accepting the prime minister's proposal.

    The hard core members miscalculated that they could press for more from the prime minister after seeing him show signs of compromise. They failed to realise that the momentum was no longer on their side. Their credibility sharply dwindled in the raid at Chulalongkorn Hospital. The army and police were better coordinated and that was proved by the dispersal of demonstrators in the Don Muang area after police were reluctant to join security operations in the beginning. It is no surprise Mr Veera eventually decided to turn his back on the rally.

    Now the prime minister's offer of an early poll is out of the question. The time for negotiation is gone. And instead of successfully putting more pressure on Mr Abhisit, all figureheads of the UDD have their backs to the wall following the government's decision to end all negotiation options. The mysterious shooting of renegade army specialist Khattiya Sawasdipol on Thursday is an answer to the red shirts that that is the only solution available now.

    The UDD has come up with new calls for Mr Abhisit to immediately quit and not lead the interim government while waiting for the new elections to take place. Of course, nobody in the government cares about these new conditions anymore.

    All the red shirt leaders can do now is to keep protesters with them as long as possible as human shields. They read Mr Abhisit's mind that the two want to keep the loss of lives at a minimum.

    The government and army learned a lot from the rush to ..... down on the demonstrators on April 10. What happened on that night showed that Mr Abhisit and army leader Gen Anupong Paojinda are fighting armed men well equipped with heavy weapons, including RPGs and M79 grenades. The only formula to success is to keep the UDD leaders and security men inside and do anything to weaken them by every means possible from cutting food, water and other supplies to building more pressure on them before the final order comes.

    The only condition for the prime minister is to immediately end the rally with no more bargains. It would not have turned out this way had the UDD leaders not made the wrong move.

    Saritdet Marukatat is News Editor, Bangkok Post.

  11. #330
    petpet
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Hier mal eine genaue, perfekte Einschätzung:

    It’s a war : continuous shootings

    Published 17 May 2010

    It’s amazing. There are fightings in several locations in Bangkok… But those are not skirmishes… It’s enough to read what a blogger hidding in the basement of the Dusit Thani hotel is writing in real time on his twitter page…

    Shootings… light…. heavy… different calibers… single shots…. bursts… grenades… the guy is a military… And it’s going on for 4 hours !

    Pictures, videos, eyes witnesses, Internet… Real time. It changes everything.

    The Red Shirts are going to be destroyed… you can count on the good will and on the skills of the fanatics and happy triggers AKA the thai soldiers… But it’s already a deal done : the thai authorities shot themselves, and not in the foot, but in the head.

    Can you imagine Abhisit, still parading as “Prime Minister” ? Going to international meetings ? Speaking to the foreign press (he used to love it… CNN made his day) ? Even obscenity has some limits.

    Of course not. Abhisit might be a political puppet, but he’s taking responsability, therefore he’s an accomplice at best, a murderer, a butcher at worst. Live and direct on TV. Need some makeup ? Where is the teleprompter ?

    In both case, it’s not really good for reputation, for a young, talented, thai politician educated at Oxford.

    Can you imagine Joe the Plumber who wanted to spend some holidays on the thai beaches, spending the money he doesn’t earn because he lost his job in the US, and his house ? Burma style instead… You bet he’s changing his plans leo leo…

    Abhisit and the military apparatus are winning the battle (the massacre)… But they’re surely losing the… future.

    The fiction of the Land Of Smile has imploded. The keywords that those orwellian clowns love to repeat over and over (“rule of law”, “democracy” etc.) like broken robots have deflated.

    Thailand is now on the same map as Burma, Iran and North Korea… Those lovely “democratic” countries, champions of the “rule of law”… From time to time, the authorities shoot their own fellow citizens like dogs. It’s their trademark. Their “signe de reconnaissance”. Welcome to the club khun Abhisit. Don’t forget to pay your annual fee.

    I repeat : Thailand = Burma, Iran, North Korea.

    The fog of war is not anymore.

    It’s Alice through the looking glass.

    And it’s sickening.
    http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2010...ous-shootings/

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