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DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

Erstellt von phimax, 16.05.2010, 15:23 Uhr · 2.290 Antworten · 59.215 Aufrufe

  1. #2251
    Bukeo
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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    Zitat Zitat von waanjai_2",p="864161
    Man wundert sich ja ohnehin schon vielerorts darüber, was im Nittaya für schräge Vögel und Diktatur-Anbeter unterwegs sind.
    naja, wenn man deine Beleidigungen so zusammenfasst - dann gehörst du eigentlich - nach deiner Auffassung - auch zu den "schrägen Vögel".

    Deine Beschimpfungen, Besserwisserei usw. sind manchmal auch nicht von schlechten Eltern.
    Du weisst ja, wer im Glashaus sitzt.....

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    Re: DISKUSSION: aktuelle Situation in Thailand

    In vino Veritas....

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    Du meinst sicherliche "verbale Entgleisungen" wie "Inselaffe" oder Yabbaberauscht"... nicht herr Wanningner?

    Ist wie bei den HArd Core Rotjoeppchen Punks - alle die aufgefallen sind, sind "Fakes" - Plagiate von der FRegierung um die "echten demokratischen Anstrengungen" zum entgleisen zu bringen!

    Die Gewalt ist nur von den roten Plagiaten ausgegangen!

    Die gedoktorten VDO's und Foddos, bis hin zu Audioaufzeichnungen sind alles Plagiate um die "gute Sache" der Rotjoeppchen Punks zu unterwandern!

    Die garanate, ALLE von V-Leuten der Regierung abgefeuert, auch die konfiszierten Waffen, ALLE von der FRegierung den 'guten Rotjoeppchen" untergejubelt - die Zusammanhaenge und die Sposnoerngelder, die Phone-ins, die Twitter meldungen ALLE von der Regierung gefaelscht!

    Hier ist schlichtweg, bis auf die echten Roten ALLES nur gefaelscht!

    Jau!

    Zu dem Thema ein Post, allerdings inEnglisch - die es nicht keonnenmaulen nicht sondern sehen zu das sie mal rasch diese sehr wichtige Sprache lernen!


    2010-06-02 18:02:30
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    you anti red shirts are so predictable.

    Let me remind you:
    - no red shirts caused havoc in Songkran last year in Bangkok or at the ASEAN summit in Pattaya - at the time, yes, leaders such as Thaksin might have appeared to claim that they were going to return to lead a revolution while their families flew abroad, and given that the gas tanker belonged to a company which as I recall Thaksin's brother in law is chairman or a director was the one parked in Dindaeng and planned to be set on I can perhaps understand why some might feel there is some connection, but these are fake reds.
    - there was a huge massacre of red shirts at Songkran last year. The biased media have never been willing to run this story, simply because the army, despite the obvious proof they aren't masters of PR or anything somehow managed to conceal 2,000+ dead bodies and remove them out of thin air without anyone seeing anything, in stark contrast to this protest where almost everything has been shot from multiple cameras by people in the neighbourhood. now admittedly, not a single healthcare or rescue services worker has been on record as saying that this massacre occured, but when protested under parliamentary privelege, the righteous and very honest red shirt MPs who have always been completely honest and truthful were quite willing to go on record speaking at great length about this
    - this was a million person march - despite the media claiming less than 100,000, and despite the fact that the entire street in front of central world in new year countdowns cannot physically hold more than 300,000 people standing; somehow the red shirts can use reclining chairs and use a bit of slack in the space time continuum to defy physics that hold the rest of us earthbound
    - no red shirts ever stormed public buildings such as CAT, ThaiCom etc - the real red shirts were outside - only fake red shirts went inside. THe real red shirts were so angry with the fake red shirts, that they showed their disapproval by doing nothing at all and not even remembering who was real and fake when the fakes came out. Arisaman was at one point both real and fake
    - no red shirts ever were armed or threatened violence. Now while one might claim that it is quite legal to set up extortion stations and force residents of Langsuan etc to pay to access their own homes; and while every single Bangkokian can see the sharp bamboo, the knives in the waist bands of the guys near the end points of the very legal street blockades - these are not arms. Arms which aren't fire arms belonging to the army don't count. And fire arms which belong to the army but are in the possession of the red shirts, they don't count. They were only being kept for safe keeping. Which is a nice thing to do
    - the burning of Bangkok was only threatened as a joke, it was never real. The red shirts didn't do that. All the eye witnesses were obviously wrong. All the youtube clips of Arisaman etc are all wrong. They are FAKE. As FAKE as Lydia's breasts. Even though the red shirt America website started saying they had freedom from 11am to start burning, that's only because that's a fake website. In fact some of the fires probably never happened. Central World for instance, it is just a style of architecture.
    - Thaksin had absolutely nothing to do with the rally or ruining the peace process. He never phoned in, twittered, contacted the protest movement nor did he ever offer to return nor did he ever offer encouragement to protesters to keep fighting. Despite the money trails pointing to him and his family, obviously he has a lot of bills, mobile phones and so on, and besides which no one has ever heard of a red shirt protester being paid to attend protests. THat's crazy. No one accepted any money to be there. Anyone that tells you they did is a fake red. At no point did Thaksin meet with any of the leaders nor discuss with them nor was the this so called private contact behind the scenes to try to discuss peace
    - at no point did the red shirts break the law. It is perfectly legal to protest wherever you want, and to do what you want. It is perfectly legal to doctor videos and play them and to tell lies on stage. Removing items for personal use from Gaysorn, Big C, Central World etc is perfectly legal provided it isn't for resale. Also, it is quite legal to commandeer BMA garbage trucks and to extort money from people wanting to pass through a public street
    - at no point have any red leaders been paid for their efforts. Even though many claim that the leaders were given cash, this is not true. Because they said so.
    - the red shirt behaviour therefore should be condoned by Peua Thai, because while they are the best political party to never have any policies and are run by the man who took Thailand into Asian Crisis and another man who got his son off the murder of a cop in Club 20 then helped him be a fugitive for a year while witnesses were 'spoken to' it is quite clear that burning the city and shooting people and so on first of all never happened, but if it did they were fake reds, and if they were real reds, then it is perfectly ok as that's part of democracy
    - Maytee may have spoken on stage at the rallies, but he was never a real red shirt; it was just mere coincidence that he was able to drive into their compound with arms in his car probably several times, while others got their handbags searched for even a pocket knife. He was just their friend, and now is no longer their friend, and he was never a red shirt. Even though he said he was, and even though he was said to be a red shirt right up until he got knicked.

    I hope that this short email will help remove some of the confusion, because I am sick of the good name of people like Jatu.... being smeared by some of you who quite frankly don't know much about Thai politics, and would be on par with that Australian idiot who dragged down the very intellectual and intelligent debates that I enjoyed so much over the last 2 months on the red shirt stage.

    Thanks.



    quelle:http: //www.thaivisa.com/forum/Unmasked-Thailand-s-Men-Black-t370124.html&st=125&p=3661221#entry3661221 Post#139

  5. #2254
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    Four Central World arsonists listed for arrest

    BANGKOK (NNT) -- The Criminal Court has approved arrest warrants for the first group of 4 arsonists who set the Central World shopping complex ablaze while the police are compiling evidence to seek more warrants against other felons.

    The Criminal Court of Southern Bangkok yesterday issued arrest warrants for 4 unnamed arson suspects, aged between 25-40. The men were caught on a video tape breaking windows at Central World before setting the building on fire. The warrants will be disseminated to police stations and customs points nationwide.

    As for the case of arson attacks at Siam Square and the Siam Paragon shopping mall, the police are now collecting evidences before filing a request to the court for its approval of more arrest warrants.

    The Criminal Court of Southern Bangkok has earlier issued a bunch of arrest warrants against 13 men for setting a television station on fire.

    NNT

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    Wen wundert diese Aussage?

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    Zitat Zitat von Bukeo Beitrag anzeigen
    Four Central World arsonists listed for arrest
    ...
    The Criminal Court of Southern Bangkok yesterday issued arrest warrants for 4 unnamed arson suspects, aged between 25-40. The men were caught on a video tape breaking windows at Central World before setting the building on fire. The warrants will be disseminated to police stations and customs points nationwide.....
    Dämmlicher geht es ja wohl nicht mehr.
    Schon Abhisit strotzte mit der unterlassenen Hilfeleistung durch die Armee:
    "Mr Abhisit yesterday told parliament CentralWorld was set on fire several times after red shirt leaders surrendered to police during the army operation to break up the rally. Government forces deployed for the military operation were instructed to remain where they were. He said none of the troops had moved to CentralWorld and Siam Square, which were later set ablaze. An investigation would be carried out to identify the details of the arson attacks on the two shopping centres.

    Jetzt sind es nur noch 2 und nix hat man dagegen unternommen.

    PM rejects army role in shopping mall blazes

    Und der Deputy erzählt jedermann, was er an Beweisen hätte, für die Theorie, dass die Rothemden eine große Zahl von Gebäuden in Brand gesteckt hätten:

    "Suthep said Jatu.... could not deny responsibility for the torching of buildings after he and some other protest leaders gave themselves in to police. He said that after repeatedly preaching violence to protesters, some leaders told their followers before their surrender that "Our fight is not over yet. You can now act freely on your own.""

    Was die wohl damit gemeint hatten. Weiter so wie bisher?

    Endlich mal wieder gerichtsfeste Beweise. 55555555

    Suthep blames 'heartless people' for political turmoil

  8. #2257
    Bukeo
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    Zitat Zitat von waanjai_2 Beitrag anzeigen
    Dämmlicher geht es ja wohl nicht mehr.
    Schon Abhisit strotzte mit der unterlassenen Hilfeleistung durch die Armee:
    naja, man kennt ja die Wassermelonen-Soldaten :-)

    Und der Deputy erzählt jedermann, was er an Beweisen hätte, für die Theorie, dass die Rothemden eine große Zahl von Gebäuden in Brand gesteckt hätten:
    es gibt wohl Videos, wo man sieht - wie Männer sich Zugang zum CW verschafften.
    Aber du hast recht, Rothemden waren das sicher nicht - eher Schwarzhemden :-)

    Das die Regierung sämtliche Gebäude selbst abgefackelt hat, glaubt nicht mal hier jemand.

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    Exclamation Video eines neutralen Beobachters zeigt die Brandstiftung

    Endlich mal Tatsachen statt verdrehte "Infos" vom Amateur-Demagogen Wahninger:

    Schweizer Fernsehen: SF Videoportal - Reporter - Reporter vom 02.06.2010 ab 2. Minute

    Man sieht sehr deutlich wie die Molotov Werfer aus den roten Gebieten Amok laufen. Dass die Armee nicht eingreifen konnte aufgrund der schwarzen Snipers und wegen der Taktik der Terroristen ist verständlich.

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    Zitat Zitat von waltee Beitrag anzeigen
    Man sieht sehr deutlich wie die Molotov Werfer aus den roten Gebieten Amok laufen. Dass die Armee nicht eingreifen konnte aufgrund der schwarzen Snipers und wegen der Taktik der Terroristen ist verständlich.
    Bevor da die Schweizer unbedingt zum Golfen mußten, sieht man ein paar Leute, die mit Stöcken auf Panzerglas einhauen und dann Molotov-Cocktails in den Eingangsbereich des Kaufhauses werfen, was für die Sprinkler-Anlagen ein Kinderspiel ist.

    Wonach die Experten suchen, sind eher Leute, die mit Brandbomben etc. ausgerüstet sind oder auch Napalm-Bomben, die wirklich ein Feuer in Stahlbeton-Kästen der Größenordnung vom Central World Plaza über Etagen hinweg nähren und verbreiten können.

    Aber selbst wenn es Blauhemden vom Innenministerium waren, keiner hat ja heute noch ein Interesse an der Wahrheit. Die Versicherungen zahlen nur bei Riots, nicht etwa bei politisch motivierten Brandstiftungen. Von daher, laßt es mal Aufständische gewesen sein.........;)

    Die Aussage: "Dass die Armee nicht eingreifen konnte aufgrund der schwarzen Snipers und wegen der Taktik der Terroristen ist verständlich." findet allerdings keine Stütze. Denn die spielen auch kein Golf.

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    Zitat Zitat von waanjai_2 Beitrag anzeigen
    Wonach die Experten suchen, sind eher Leute, die mit Brandbomben etc. ausgerüstet sind oder auch Napalm-Bomben, die wirklich ein Feuer in Stahlbeton-Kästen der Größenordnung vom Central World Plaza über Etagen hinweg nähren und verbreiten können.
    Das meine ich mit Verdrehungen, danke für dein Beispiel.

    Wenn man weiss wie wenig es gebraucht hat für das Feuerinferno im Nachtklub Santika anzufachen, dann genügen auch ein Dutzend Molotovs um ein Shoppingcenter abzufackeln. Sogar ein Schwelbrand kann sich zum Grossbrand entwickeln, also lass mal deine Ablenkungsmanöver.

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