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Die Russen-Thai Connection

Erstellt von DisainaM, 05.11.2008, 14:52 Uhr · 1 Antwort · 952 Aufrufe

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    Die Russen-Thai Connection

    schon zu Thaksins Zeiten begann der intensive Handel mit Russland, weg von Amerika.

    Thailands Erdgasvorkommen liegen in Russland, man braucht nur ein Rohrleitungsnetz, um sie zu bekommen,
    soweit eine alte Erkenntnis.

    Zunächst wurde ein freies Visa-Personenabkommen unterzeichnet, und es wurden diverse Rüstungsgeschäfte ins rollen gebracht.

    nach dem Ende der Thaksin Aera, und der Untersuchung mit diversen Geschäften,
    ist man nun zur Überzeugung gekommen,
    weiter auf dem Weg der engen wirtschaftlichen Rüstungsgeschäfte weiter zu machen.

    Thailand's army plans to order six Mil Mi-17 multirole utility helicopters, boosting Russia's attempts to break into the country's defence market and continuing Bangkok's move away from its dependence on the USA for arms requirements.

    The army says the Mi-17 met its requirements and was cheaper than the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk that it also considered. Thailand will pay 950 million baht ($27.4 million) for an initial three helicopters, and spend a further 50 million baht on pilot training and other equipment.

    "We are buying three Mi-17 helicopters for the price of one Black Hawk. The Mi-17 can also carry more than 30 troops, while the Black Hawk could carry only 13 soldiers. These were the key factors behind the decision," says the army.

    Many of Thailand's current US-made military helicopters have been grounded due to a shortage of spare parts and poor maintenance. However, plans to upgrade some of the army's Bell UH-1H and Bell 212 helicopters have been cancelled, the service says, with the $30 million allocated for this work to instead purchase three more Mi-17s. Delivery schedules have not been revealed.

    But industry sources say the deal could come undone if there is another change in Thailand's government. Prime minister and defence minister Somchai Wongsawat, who took office in September after a military government gave way after a year in power, has given the contract his approval. However, his party is facing daily street protests from thousands of Thais who are opposed to the government's alleged links to exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

    Moscow has been actively lobbying Bangkok's armed forces and politicians for several years and offered to sell Sukhoi Su-30 fighters in exchange for chicken meat in 2004, and has also been trying to sell it tanks, armoured personnel carriers and anti-tank missiles. But it was rebuffed last year when Thailand ordered six Saab Gripen C/D fighters and a Saab 340 regional airliner equipped with a Saab Microwave Systems Erieye airborne early warning and control system radar under a deal worth 19 billion baht.

    Both sales represent a significant departure for the Thai armed forces, which has previously only used US helicopters and fighters like the Northrop F-5 and Lockheed Martin F-16.

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    Re: Die Russen-Thai Connection

    War vor kurzem auch in der BP:


    Army to buy Russian choppers


    The army has decided to buy six new multi-role helicopters from Russia, the first time it has opted not to buy helicopters from the United states.

    Army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda said yesterday the army had decided to procure six Mi-17 helicopters from Russia because they met its needs and were cheaper than the American Black Hawk helicopters.

    The army has one billion baht in hand to purchase the first three Mi-17s and will divert funds earlier allocated for the repair of its old helicopters to buy the other three, he said.

    Army spokesman Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd said the army had cancelled planned repairs to 16 old HU-1 helicopters.

    They had been in use for more than four decades and the contractor could not finish the repairs on schedule because of a lack of spare parts.

    A committee headed by army assistant chief Gen Theerawat Boonyapradap, a former cadet classmate of Gen Anupong, had decided that buying the Russian helicopters was the better option. The Mi-17 could carry 36 troops and a light military vehicle at the same time. The smaller Black Hawk could carry only 13 soldiers and was much more expensive.

    "We can get three Mi-17 helicopters for the same cost as one Black Hawk helicopter," the army spokesman said.

    The first three Mi-17s are priced at 950 million baht, with another 50 million baht for pilot training and ground equipment.

    Col Sansern said Mi-17s were used in many countries and could be used for rescue work. The supplies of spare parts available would allow them to stay in service for decades.

    The purchase needs approval from Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, who is also the defence minister.

    Russia had offered to sell Mi-17s to Thailand at 168 million baht each in 2006, but the price has now risen to more than 300 million baht each. The deal has been arranged by the same brokerage firm that supplied the army with 96 armoured vehicles from Ukraine for four billion baht - a deal criticised as lacking transparency.
    Dagegen finde ich ist nichts zu sagen. Der Mi-17 ist ein Top-Helikopter, weltweit sind über 12.000 Stück im Einsatz. Da ist es natürlich auch viel leichter an Ersatzteile zu kommen, verglichen mit Blackhawk. Der Preis dürfte zudem auch eine nicht geringe Rolle spielen.


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