"der nächste Militär-Coup kommt !"

Chak, du reduzierst Demokratie auf freie Wahlen. Das hat zwar etwas mit Demokratie entfernt zu tun wird dem Begriff aber nicht gerecht.

Fakt ist, das Volk wollte Thaksin nicht mehr, nun ist er weg und das Volk akzeptiert die neue Regierung. Dazu braucht es keine Wahl um das demokratisch zu nennen.

Im uebrigen sind alle Institutionen unterhalb der Landesregierung frei gewaehlt und seit dem Putsch hat es zahlreiche Wahlen gegeben.

Das Entscheidende ist fuer mich, dass der Begriff Demokratie einfach viel zu nichtssagend ist um daran etwas konkretes festzumachen.

Wer faselt nicht von Demokratie? Und jeder meint damit das was ihm gerade passt.

Sioux

Strong media protest over Thaksin, TRT ban
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007...s_30023842.php

Da kann einem schon ein wenig bange werden.

Doch ich habe einen guten Artikel in der Nation vom 10.01. gefunden und meinen Senf dazu gegeben.

Mr. Somroutai Sapsomboon wrote in The Nation January 10. : quote:

“The top goal for the government must be demonstrating to the public Thaksin´s wrongdoings and bringing him to justice.
Although some people were silent on the September 19 coup, it did not mean they agreed with the military takeover. Many hoped that, through the coup leader and interim government, they could topple Thaksin. But lack of zeal for this priority appears to be making the costly coup worthless. And that is putting pressure on leaders of the new regime.
The government has full power and authority to tackle Thaksin´s scandals but it has let the Assets Examination Committee (AEC) oversee this duty. Its sluggish progress was highlighted by the revelation this week the government had yet to command state agencies to lodge complaints against former ministers, and others deemed responsible for corruption scandals that have caused them to suffer losses.
But the main problem is the AEC has concluded few cases and thus failed to lodge any petition against Thaksin, as of yet.”

To oust the PM through a military coup is not democratic, but was the only way to bring Thailand back to a democratic path. Why not order him back to Thailand and put him in jail until he has shown his innocence?!
The goal must now be to show the normal people what is undemocratic and what democratic. And than let the people decide which leader they like.
It will be very difficulty for the many who helped Thaksin before, to turn now around and show face. The many wrongdoings from the smaller people can be checked at a later time.
The question is how to bust the moral und democratic understanding from all the people, who will choose the next government.

Entschuldigt, dass ich den nicht nochmal übersetzt habe.

Armin: The question is how to bust the moral und democratic understanding...

Huh? :???: "Die Frage ist wie man Moral und demokratisches Verständnis am besten kaputt gehen läßt?" Ich nehme an du meinst "boost" statt "bust"?

Cheers, X-Pat :-)

x-pat,
natürlich "boost" heben,verstärken! danke!

Na, da werden sich die Thai ja freuen, wenn ihnen ein Falang erklärt, dass ihre Moral und ihr demokratisches Verständnis boostwürdig ist...

[highlight=yellow:6c2a995223]Das th. Aussenministerium bricht alle hochrangigen Kontakte mit Singapore ab,[/highlight:6c2a995223]
weil die Medien in Singapore ein Interwiev mit Thaksin gemacht haben,
was Thailand als einen unfreundlichen Act ansieht.

Thailand suspends all-high level meetings with Singapore

BANGKOK: -- Thailand Tuesday decided to suspend indefinitely all high level meetings including the planned summit later this year and a ministerial dialogue next month with Singapore as a result of the island's insensitivity to Thailand's political development.

Krit Garnjanagoonchorn, Permanent Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Tuesday summoned Singapore ambassador Peter Chan to lodge Thailand's protest of Singapore's action and Thaksin's interview on the island, which he used to attack the current government. "We want to show our dissatisfaction," said the ministry spokesman, Kitti Wasinond at the press conference.

Last week, Peter informed Foreign Minister Niyta Phibunsonggram and Krit Garnjanagoonchorn, permanent secretary, that Thaksin would be visiting Singapore for four days on a private visit. Deputy Prime Minister S Jayakumar would also host him a private lunch. The ministry informed the prime minister without any word of caution. But on Monday, Thaksin granted an interview to the foreign media, which Thailand viewed as unfriendly act.

--The Nation 2007-01-16


Thailand summons Singapore‘s ambassador

BANGKOK: -- Thailand summoned Singapore‘s ambassador Tuesday to express concern about former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra‘s recent meeting with a top official and to urge caution in the future, the military-installed prime minister said.

"We informed the Singaporean (ambassador) that we are concerned by the political movements made by Thaksin," Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont told reporters.

Singapore‘s Foreign Ministry had no immediate comment, but in a statement issued Sunday described Jayakumar as an "old friend" of Thaksin‘s and said their meeting was "purely social and private."

The military council that removed Thaksin has renewed attempts to muzzle the media and its coverage of him. The generals asked broadcasters last week to limit coverage of comments by Thaksin and his representatives in the name of national unity, prompting a media outcry but succeeding in blocking certain broadcasts.

Cable TV provider UBC decided "not to broadcast the interview" and instead repeated an earlier program, said a UBC official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. The official said there had been no particular order from coup leaders not to air the interview.

Since the coup, the military and the temporary government it installed have blamed Thaksin and his supporters for trying to cause unrest to destabilize the country. Thaksin has denied the allegations, for which no evidence has been produced.

"Enough is enough," he said, adding that it was time to "contribute to the Thai society outside (the) political arena."

"I reassure them they shouldn‘t feel worried about me," he said, adding that he will not seek to regain his old job — but will remain a member of his political party. He also said Thailand must better prepare for economic competition.

--AP 2007-01-16

THAI-SINGAPORE TIES ON THE BRINK
Thailand cancels invitation to Singapore's foreign minister

BANGKOK: -- Thai government rescinded Tuesday the visit of Singapore's foreign minister later this month after ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's meeting with Singapore Deputy Prime Minister.

The government also announced it was suspending a civil service exchange program with Singapore and canceled a meeting about the program that was to be held later this month.

"We expressed dissatisfaction with the explanation made by Singaporean authorities. Therefore we decide to cancel visit of Singapore's Foreign Minister George Yeo to Bangkok later this month ," Foreign Ministry spokesman Kitti Wasinondh said.

Thai Foreign Ministry summoned Singapore ambassador on Monday to express deep concerns on Thaksin's visit to Singapore.

An informed source said Singapore issued a private invitation for Thaksin to stay in the island nation for three days. Thaksin met Singapore's Deputy Prime Minister S Jayakumar during the visit over the weekend.

--The Nation 2007-01-16

nun ist das Thaksin Interwiev keine besondere Angelegenheit,
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...iew/index.html
wohl aber die heftige Reaktion hierauf.
http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewBr...wseNewsID=1016

stellt sich die Frage,
wielange die th. Regierung braucht, um in dieser Sache zu der benötigten Souveränität zu kommen.

Ergänzend ist hinzuzufügen, dass das Interview in Thailand nicht vollständig gesehen werden konnte, da die Übetragung von CNN durch UBC zensiert wurde.

Ist schon eine ziemliche Frechheit eines befreundeten Nachbarn, angefangen von der "privaten" Begegnung bis hin zum Fernsehinterview.

Immerhin wird ihnen nicht entgangen sein, dass Thaksin derzeit eine unerwünschte Person ist.

Ich weiss nicht, ob ich da etwas poste, das schon bekannt ist, aber das Interview von CNN mit Thaksin ist immer noch abrufbar unter



Widerlich, diese Fratze, und wenn man ihm da beim Lügen zusieht, kommt einem sofort der Gedanke, dass er doch wohl der Urheber der Attentate sein könnte.