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Rohingya.

Erstellt von Yogi, 06.07.2013, 22:35 Uhr · 342 Antworten · 29.645 Aufrufe

  1. #341
    Avatar von Rooy

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    Die ARD Tagesschau berichtete bereits am 30.Januar 2016, dass die ersten muslimischen Rohingya aus Myanmar (Burma) in Lesbos gelandet seien mit dem Wunschziel: "Deutschland". Dort werden die Asylanträge der Rohingya vom BAMF anerkannt. Diese Rohingya waren ursprünglich aus Bangladesh nach Myanmar zugewandert und siedelten bisher an den landschaftlich schönsten Strandabschnitten der Andamanensee, bevor sie nach Unruhen von den Buddhisten vertrieben wurden.

    Das wissen alle Rohingya schon sehr genau, bevor sie sich auf den Weg ins gelobte Land machen:
    Im Gegensatz zu Asylbewerbern, die zunächst Leistungen nach dem Asylbewerberleistungsgesetz (AsylbLG) erhalten, haben Flüchtlinge mit positivem Asyl-Bescheid vom Bamf - ebenso wie deutsche Staatsbürger - sämtliche Ansprüche auf Sozialleistungen von Hartz 4 bis Kindergeld. Eine Flüchtlingsfamilie aus Myanmar mit vier Kindern, die vorher vom Fischfang in der Andamanensee lebte, bekommt nach positivem Asylbescheid in Berlin im Regelfall ca. 2.638 € monatlich Hartz4= ALGII plus kostenlose Krankenversicherung.Das spricht sich in den Flüchtlingslagern der Rohingya herum. Das erscheint den Flüchtlingen, die derzeit ziemlich erbärmlich in Lagern hausen, wie ein Lotto-Hauptgewinn, der in monatlichen Raten ausgezahlt wird.

    Was sollen Rohingya, die meist keine Schule besuchten, in Deutschland arbeiten? Die dürften auch nach vielen Jahren in der Arbeitswelt nicht vermittelbar sein.

    Übrigens:
    Unter die Asylbewerber aus Myanmar mischen sich auch Wirtschaftsflüchtlinge aus Bangladesh, die sich als Rohingya ausgeben:

    "According to my information, [they are] Bangladeshi economic migrants [who] have arrived/entered Turkey via Iran by illegal way or by human traf......s," he says.
    "They try to get the benefits of a neighboring country and misuse the name of Rohingya in Turkey and in the EU countries for the purpose of asylum."
    Phones rang unanswered at the Bangladesh Embassy and the Myanmar honorary consulate in Ankara on Wednesday when an Anadolu Agency correspondent called to seek clarification.
    A Turkish official has confirmed that the group was among more than 350 people picked up at sea by the coastguard over the weekend as they attempted to travel to the Greek island of Lesbos and Europe.
    "Most of them are from Myanmar”

    https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-cr...kers-in-turkey

    Das ist schon interessant, dass von fast allen deutschen Medien weiter die unkontrollierte und unbegrenzte Aufnahme von Flüchtlingen aus aller Welt propagiert wird. Denn das wird teuer:

    http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...rden-Euro.html

    Drei Viertel der Asylbewerber in Deutschland sind junge männliche Moslems, mit denen mehrheitlich kein Staat zu machen ist. Alle Rohingya sind Moslems.
    Die thailändische Regierung, die schlechte Erfahrungen mit den Moslems im eigenen Land macht, will die Rohingya aus dem Nachbarland Myanmar nicht aufnehmen. Die Sicherheit der eigenen Bevölkerung hat in Thailand Vorrang.

    Der Bedarf einer Familie mit 2 Kindern, inkl. Miete und Krankenversicherung ist
    1.896,00 Euro!!!
    Mal einen H4 Rechner bemühen und nicht nur im Kopf überschlagen :-)

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  3. #342
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    Der Bedarf einer Familie mit 2 Kindern, inkl. Miete und Krankenversicherung ist
    1.896,00 Euro!!!
    Mal einen H4 Rechner bemühen und nicht nur im Kopf überschlagen :-)
    da steht aber was von VIER Kindern, nicht von ZWEI

  4. #343
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    ja, das Thema bleibt auf dem Schirm,

    irgendwann, muss man damit rechnen, das es ganz schnell geht,
    dann wird innerhalb von wenigen Tagen etwas verkündet
    - bring troublemaker to justice -

    -Myanmar failed to restore basic human rights für Rohingya-

    und dann wird dieses Thema zum Aufhänger genommen,

    um sich vor China vor die Nase zu setzen.


    UNITED NATIONS — Genocide is still taking place against Rohingya Muslims remaining in Myanmar and the government is increasingly demonstrating it has no interest in establishing a fully functioning democracy, U.N. investigators said Wednesday.
    Marzuki Darusman, chair of the U.N. fact-finding mission on Myanmar, said thousands of Rohingya are still fleeing to Bangladesh, and the estimated 250,000 to 400,000 who have stayed following last year’s brutal military campaign in the Buddhist-majority country “continue to suffer the most severe” restrictions and repression.
    “It is an ongoing genocide that is taking place at the moment,” he told a news conference Wednesday.
    Darusman said the requirements for genocide, except perhaps for killings, “continue to hold” for Rohingya still in Myanmar’s northern Rakhine state. These include causing serious bodily harm, inflicting conditions designed to destroy the Rohingya, and imposing measures to prevent births, he said.

    Myanmar’s U.N. ambassador, Hau Do Suan, called the fact-finding mission “flawed, biased and politically motivated” and said the government “categorically rejects” its inference of “genocidal intent.”
    Yanghee Lee, the U.N. special investigator on human rights in Myanmar, said she and many others in the international community hoped the situation under Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi “would be vastly different from the past – but it is really not that much different from the past.”
    Lee added later that she thinks Suu Kyi, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate and former political prisoner who now leads Myanmar’s civilian government, “is in total denial” about accusations that the military in Buddhist-majority Myanmar ....., murdered and tortured Rohingya and burned their villages, sending over 700,000 fleeing to Bangladesh since August 2017.
    “The government is increasingly demonstrating that it has no interest and capacity in establishing a fully functioning democracy where all its people equally enjoy all their rights and freedoms,” Lee said. “It is not upholding justice and rule of law” that Suu Kyi “repeatedly says is the standard to which all in Myanmar are held.”
    If this were the case, she said, fair laws would be applied impartially to all people, impunity would not rein, “and the law would not be wielded as a weapon of oppression.”
    Suu Kyi’s government has rejected independent international investigations into the alleged abuses of Rohingya and has commissioned its own probe. The government has also rejected the report by the fact-finding mission, which said some top military leaders should be prosecuted for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide against the Rohingya.
    “The Myanmar government’s hardened positions are by far the greatest obstacle,” Darusman told reporters.
    “Its continued denials, its attempts to shield itself under the cover of national sovereignty and its dismissal of 444 pages of details about the facts and circumstances of recent human rights violations that point to the most serious crimes under international law” strengthens the need for international action because “accountability cannot be expected from the national processes,” he said.
    Darusman and Lee spoke ahead of a Security Council meeting that began with a vote on whether Darusman should be allowed to brief members.
    He was given a green light with the minimum nine “yes” votes from the U.S., Britain, France, Netherlands, Sweden, Ivory Coast, Kuwait, Peru and Poland. China, which is Myanmar’s neighbor and ally, Russia and Bolivia voted “no” and Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia and Kazakhstan abstained.
    Russian Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia accused supporters of the briefing of “torpedoing consensus” in the council and forcing council members “to engage in loud-speaker diplomacy.”
    He said the fact-finding mission didn’t go to Rakhine state, called its report “too biased,” and said the international community should help Myanmar and Bangladesh resolve the Rohingya refugee problem.
    Chinese Ambassador Ma Zhaoxu later echoed Nebenzia, calling the report’s conclusions “lopsided” and “not credible” and saying the international community should work on returning the refugees.
    Lee stressed that their “repatriation is not possible now.”
    “I will not encourage any repatriation,” the U.N. envoy said. “Conducive conditions means they should not go back to … the oppressive laws, the discrimination. The minimum they need is freedom of movement, access to basic health services.”
    Lee said “there’s been a lot of progress in terms of economic development and infrastructure, but in the area of ‘democratic space’ and people’s right to claim back their land … there is no progress.”
    “Right now, it’s like an apartheid situation where Rohingyas still living in Myanmar … have no freedom of movement,” Lee said. “The camps, the shelters, the model villages that are being built, it’s more of a cementing of total segregation or separation from the Rakhine ethnic community.”
    At the council meeting, Darusman said the fact-finding mission concluded that last year’s events were “a human rights catastrophe that was foreseeable and planned,” and it conservatively estimates there were “10,000 Rohingya deaths.”
    “Remaining Rohingya in Rakhine state are at grave risk,” he said, and returning Rohingya from Bangladesh would be “tantamount to condemning them to life as sub-humans and further mass killing.”
    Darusman said the Security Council should the situation in Myanmar to the International Criminal Court or another international tribunal and also impose an arms embargo on Myanmar, a ban on transactions with all military-related enterprises and sanctions against those alleged to be most responsible for atrocities against the Rohingya.
    “There can be no ‘moving on’ from this crisis without addressing its root causes – all of which continue to exist today, primarily the presence of an unaccountable military that acts with complete impunity,” he said.
    The Netherlands’ deputy U.N. ambassador, Lise Gregoire Van Haaren, said her government will push quickly for a Security Council resolution that would refer Myanmar to the ICC.
    But council action appeared highly unlikely because of its deep divisions and almost certain opposition from China and Russia, both veto-wielding council members.
    “I’m very aware that there might be pushback, but having pushback is never a reason not to try,” Van Haaren said. “So we are going to have a really ambitious aim for the negotiations” on a possible resolution “and let’s see where we get.”
    Myanmar’s Suan said the Independent Commission of Inquiry established by the government will investigate alleged human rights violations, and “we will never accept any calls for referral of Myanmar to the ICC.”
    Story: Edith M. Lederer
    UN Investigator: Genocide Still Taking Place in Myanmar

    als der Pol Pot Virus ausbrach,
    und ein Teil der kambodschanischen Bevölkerung erfasst wurde,
    sich um die genetische Reinheit der Bevölkerung zu kümmern,
    und jede Form von äusserlicher Fremdheit auf den killing fields unter die Erde zu bringen,

    da schwor de internationale Gemeinschaft,
    nie wieder solange wegzusehen, wenn ein Land von einem Nationalismus erfasst wird,
    wo es anfängt, selektiv Teile der Bevölkerung zu reduzieren,
    weil die Regel heisst, zuerst die eine Gruppierung, dann sind es die Mischlinge,
    im stillen sind es die ganze Zeit die Behinderten, denen man mehr oder minder verdeutlicht,
    dass die Gemeinschaft in dieser Zeit ihre Last nicht mehr tragen kann.
    Da wird die Teilnahme an der Behinderten Olympiade zur Farce,
    weil die Zeit der Teilhabe längst passe ist.

    Doch Europa zerfällt aussenpolitisch, weil überall die Herrschaft der Gartenzwerge beginnt,
    manche sagen, der Planet ist wieder durstig nach Blut, weil es wieder zu voll geworden ist,
    also wird die Bevölkerung durch Nationalismen polarisiert, bis sie sich gegenseitig die Köpfe einschlagen,

    - schauen wir mal.

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